Welcome to the Online-Call song in Ibanna Soman's 2023 to a
dready dream, by a vegor kataground in Janan.
And on my course, hosted by the nummer to
center for body studies at the University of Hamburg.
In Collaboration with the Barrascenter for Bodystudies in Massacusetts.
And today we will look at someone number 30. But before that
the eview Extracts from the very interesting discussion on the fore.
We could need a madina. It is my immression,
that the even when you and one that takes on vitakain.
Avitaka, my bedue to is operating a with the very clear,
got device between somewhere and we passional.
Which does not seem to make a lot of room for
emore organic development of inside in term quality as it immerges from the very politics discourses.
And be with the prevident understanding of vitake and vitcharre in
relation to and discuss its todd.
Mit stass naturful justice to this mental functions indianer
But as other context. And see under the influence of
the massy inside to dision, which I'm simplifying here,
emset slowing down and holding concepture thoughts,
by way of the nothing technic, going of snow motion.
You nothered to give primacy to what is seen as non conceptual and more primary,
there by enabling the rising of liberating inside and whiston.
But decurity,
the third aspect brings to mind to related personal field observation,
regardimated this working mit the mahasi
And no sugo enka charn seen to dishin in some stowns
of the type forest to dishin. Neme are time,
stand to see thought, as the big culpered.
Practitioners influenced by this attitude, me are times in content ificulties,
in resorting the relationship to thoughts and thinking in a skill ful way.
In the sense of nothing able to now vigate, very easily,
the actual reality of the thinking mind. And of distracting thoughts or obviousitions,
by giving more attention to an attempt,
at putting thoughts are side,
was a spenning them
Yeah, I'm very much resonated with the last but in
my own experience. It was really crucial to find out
hello so when I'm teached to communicate that meditation is,
not just about the upsince of thought.
And that a very powerful, cultivation of mindfulness,
auf inside of emptiness, is precise you went thoughts are present.
To be a we are thought without getting card
away menem without identifying with them,
is very powerful and fruitful areena
for meditation practice
Generell. Ich fängt an, in dem Serman
award pragmatic and velative to be quite beautiful and inspirational.
He's this cribing how we can news concepts to gobby on concepts.
The partys after all constructed. I suppose,
we could say there are light kinds of concepts and construction,
that will need to the end of subjectivities.
And further more, there are light approaches to working
with them
We use concepts effectively, when we see them as one more thing,
that is in permanent, stressful and constructed.
And demonstrates the principle of debened rising. In this way,
with in all of experience, could not what,
in all of experience, could not surf as a gate do awakening.
Yeah. Robert Grush. Design conditions thinking and thinking not
thought conditions design. Thinking again as source a condition that
are policy, Sonja Sonka. But thinking all so conditions,
but puncy as Sonja Sonka
So we have hear we have two more
world worlds in volving thinking to more chaps of existence.
These world pools all connected and contribute to the momentum that
pincess to existence. We are in one world pool,
in before we know, what is going on,
we as world into the neighboring world and left without orientation.
This is what makes radical reflection, so difficult.
We have to slow downing now,
and gain the clarenty to be able to see,
what is going on?
Yeah. Robert, we really
like stoce
Hedwig Cran. In Meditationer to cup the slightly different ranning
of the vanimal of, no, eithang mama,
no, eithang mama, not ness is mine,
not the same, I not this is myself.
It poor is very interesting to were beserve that this strong now,
not, really has potential to clear the ground from the
clinging to the conceed I am.
The wording cuts deeper in this way.
Maybe because of the highlighting of not. The plaining down
by the refaction not to level all the protoberances was one
of the meditative to themes that I took with me from
the sunning
Ja, ich habe eine same Experience aus Hendrik,
das ist ein Wayback, und ich schaue lange,
wen ich transcribieren will, in der Englisch-Translation,
in der Katakonomie, in Janon und der Hass mag ich besonders.
Und wenn ich arbeite, this not year don't more not is one,
was make not massorator, I also applied it in more one,
practice, and it gave a real cutting edge,
to the content platation of one up down,
and last dicat
trynam, at first clans, formers at you part town
a meditation and signals concentration,
seeing to be quite different
The born reflection, their similarity became clearer.
At least pecause the despecsion that can develope with boss practices
in clients the mind to was wedding go.
Yeah, I see that also in Irons of find this and intriguing aspect.
And my personal way of making sense of it is,
that this hat die partana meditation,
this crypt year is particularly set to be super digitity down.
It's a metter developed, high high high level of sity partana meditation and if we if
we take that part of the Es hat die Badanashot da an der,
I have call to refrain, there's last but any situation,
viharati, na, checking, chilo, caubadia.
And this discribes really in the, the aim goal,
purpose of the practice and also a high level of practice,
one door as independently, without cleaning to anything.
And the animeter has related nuance it is Kentech,
it's starting point, in a very basic practice of sense with strained,
wore niemit, das are no longer crasped. Klanton? Ja,
in we're we know longer duell dependent und nimmitas and then lead to the actual summady,
yeah, nimmitas are money with a mind,
is there, is the low ware,
but no longer operates in the sense of no longer processing information,
in the sense of dropping any perception as son as
it our rises
And no longer taking up me me this an anyway.
And so that any cital non-dependence and anime terms signalsness the
IIII I like to relate this to do it other,
as to medidate for a proaches,
in the second one having a strong good I mention of
john quality of summaidy of summa term.
But both pointing to the same to their complete independence,
the complete sullisness
of the experience of nibano
Ethang sand on you don't bany than. Ja,
die dann sauber sind, Garde, Samato. So,
wo, body, body, nee, sango,
da lag ein Cajovirango in your older, nippenbahnen.
This is peaceful and this is excellent namely and the stilling of our preparations.
There relinquishment of our sets and the distruction of graving detachment
sessation, extinction. Which the permission of the assembly of
the menble menitative morgens? This is the third yeard,
Samen in the serious of Samens on your
You know are previous summen, we discussed the way of liberating the mind,
from the grip of thoughts, which are comparable to the army of morning.
My means of the gradial and systematic mode of practice,
spaced on the twin principles of pragmatisement relativity.
We also made an attempt to understand,
why the other to pala Samani auf die other hand,
who are rise that non-politic state by gradioly auttennuating cravings,
conseens and views, comes to equal,
that we take a summarning,
that was concentration
Und das habe ich in der Kassamani,
in der Norbes Silence, in der High Sense.
It is not the temporary subsidents of thinking and pondering,
as in tranquility meditation. It course deeper,
in that it routes, the hosts of matter.
At there very citadill, as it way, by penetrative wisdom.
The other day with special reference to the sakapagne should tain that year in Icaya.
We outlined in Brief, a part to practice, gradialy tendinged,
voice this sessation of backonings and born of politic perception.
Then discores exponents and happiness, and unhappiness,
and then equanimity to be person and the happiness and on
happiness and then equality, not to be persuit.
We get a clear and ciation of this two kinds of
happiness and happiness and equanimity in this allie,
at an evibangas, who to other money manicaria.
In the disco ist der wunder gives an exposition of
36 part, ways up out.
Hoppings, under the heading, checken dings, sagten dabei da.
Literine, 37, 36 steps of beings.
The allisten this follows. Child me as Italian Somanasani,
6 cyines of happiness based on the house or lie
Kommen, I just wanted to mention that year in the
Germ How should drive should be taken in a psychological sense.
It is not about a distinction between those who have gone for to not.
In other words, even though I where a roops,
I might still have, and gehassiter kinds of happiness or on happiness.
And Samba, die hohe is a elapers, might have
the other type. So it's not about one's rolling society,
so to say, or outside of society,
but it is about the mental additue,
is it the mental ided you to leading to accumulation of things of ownership,
ois it a mental additued of renanciation.
End of commit. Char, nick, kann man Citani
so meiner Sonne, 6 Skins of happeness based on renanciation?
Char, gia, Citani, number nassani,
6 Skins of unhippiness based on the house not life.
Char, necken kann man Citani, number nassani,
6 Skins of unhippiness based on renanciation. Char,
gia, si doo becca, 6 Skins of equanimity,
based on the house not life, and char,
necken kann man si doo becca,
6 Skins of equanimity based on the renanciation
The Sixonage case refirst to the Six Objects of Sense,
them you formed sounds may taste tangible and idea.
Europa, Sandanganda, rassable tamba in human. Now,
in order do a quain to ourselves with the
Six kinds of happiness based on the household life.
That are striked on the stand, the definition of the
First kind, that is to say from.
As the Object of the eye. Chakul, vinyl,
janan, europana, downan, kandidatanan,
mana,
bahnangmann oder mahnen
Low car me is a partician, your tana party lavang va,
but i lavator, samu no passeton, pub me va,
but i landa pub on bang atti, tang,
your otan, tang, your otan, tang,
your otan, tang.
When one regard, sessing acquisition,
and acquisition of forms cognized by my they are in the tard desigable,
charming, and reander to light for connected with worldy gains.
Oh, wenn man recalls, what has formuly,
what boys formuly acquire, that has past sees than changed,
happiness arise. Such happiness as as this is cold,
happiness based on the house
or line
Common Translation by Beconyanamoi. When one regards to again,
the gain of form, congnition by the eye,
the door wished for in design,
the greeam by Gredifying and associated with worldwiness.
Or when on requals, what was formerly optained that has passed, see stand change
joy our vises. Such joyers this is core joy bashed
on the house or life. And the mindy am argum our
parallel. The eye comes to nur for stead up conduces
hive to joy and the mind reflects on them deciring those
forms.
Experiencing happiness conjoined with design
Those forms, which one has not got,
one designs to get, and do a switch one has already got,
are recollected, and keep rise to joy.
Joy of this type, is call joy, based on attachment, and the comment.
The happiness based on renanciation is defined this hollows. Rupan and tevanician,
vidit va, vibrain nama, viragene rodan, pumpenbedgeeva,
Rupa, älterreiche, Sambite, Europa, Anicia,
doken, caffee party namen, namadi, evan metern,
yet rabbrot, dann ist ein Paninia, ja passet dok,
open panyotti, so miners song.
Young your europans, so miners, song,
young your europans,
When my knowing them permanents change fating away insuciation of forms
one seasons that see that's really is with right whiston.
That formsport formulierend now are all in permanent suffering in subject to change happiness arrises.
So it's happiness as this is goaled happiness based on renanciation.
Coming translation by we conjanamoli. When my knowing the impermanents change,
fating away insuciation of forms,
one see is as a seed actually is with proper whiston,
that formsport formuliert now are
all in permanent suffering and subject to change joy arrises
Such joyers ness is cold joy a based on Renanciation.
And that miny am a algum a parrerman. One understands that from
same permanent changing, bound to disciplier, fade way and sees.
That all phone, sport formerly and in the present.
I impermanent dooka in bound to sees.
Repolecting this skills rise ton joy. Joy of this time,
his cold joy a based on dispection and of coming.
Then they are in happiness, mazed on the houseworld lighthex
is plained in the volling words. And Chankovinia,
Janan, Rubana, Ittentan, Gandtan, Manu oder Manu,
Yoka, Amisaparties and Jürgen Dying up bei die Ladung,
war ab bei die Labatour,
das haben wir noch ein paar Satteln
Pumé war Apadi Landerpumbang, Atti ist in der Runde gegangen, wie Parina Dang, Samanos Sardon.
Obwohl sie die dominas haben. Irgendjemand rubbang dominas,
in der dominas, in der dominas,
in der dominas, in der dominas, non akquisition,
in der non akquisitional forms cocktails me by they are,
in the done deciple, charming a greemer,
the lightful connected with world the gains.
All we mon recourse, what was formerly, not a quire,
that this past season changed, on happeness horizes.
So such a non-inepiness as this,
this goald are neben as based on
the hosely
Common Translation by Veguniana Moli. When one ring ones,
as a non-game, the non-gain or from Scotten-Anselm by the I,
that are wished for and desired a greeper,
quritify and associated with worlding us.
Or we more requalize, what was family not obtained,
that has past seas and changed, egree horizes.
Such greefuss this is got greef based on the household life.
And many ma aren't a moversion. Yeah,
I comes to not from Mr. Dark on do shift to
joy and the mind reflects on them.
Designing goes fornes, experiencing happiness conjoined with Design
Those forms, which one has not yet gott,
one is not able to get. Those,
which one has ording gott, as soon passing goings,
get and indicate, having seas to change.
Which gives rise to sadness. Sanus of this type is
calls, Sanus Space on Attachment. You the my year
ago migration as a little different. It's where is the
party as about what bound earlier and didn't not can.
There my year ago to is about what one good,
but what has change than dis appeared.
Bore things as are our sadness, based on
attachment or the household life
End of Command. The Description auf ein happiness based on renanciation as a special significance to inset meditation,
it runs, ruban on tee, vanitiatang vedit va, vedit nama gerard natural, puppe in cheeva ruba, et ada heitia, sandme te, Ruba nitiatuca, veba namen namen marati. Eva metern,
et ta bo, dankensam vanya,
this va another resort, vema cas a peangu bakteabe,
it, can nassu nama rang ta ta ta,
ja dann opa sampagnia, via resar me, anya,
in der hIA, ja dann opasam, bei der Viren,
und die Annotarie ist so, wie ich meine,
ein paar, ein paar, ein paar, ein paar,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein,
zwei, ein, zwei, ein, zwei,
ein, zwei, ein, zwei, ein, drittes,
nannes, nannes, faitting away insersation of one seas,
that it actually is with right western,
that form spoth formulierend now are all in permanent,
suffering and sudgeic to change,
one around is a longing for the supreme deliverance is dust,
mentionally enterepone in the byte,
in that's fair, that the noble once no interepon in the byte,
in one who are roses,
such a longing for the supreme deliverances,
unhappiness horizes, condition by that longing.
Such one epiness is this is cold one epiness, based up a financiation.
Common translation by beconianamoli. When by no in the impermanence change,
fating way insusation of formance, one see says,
it actually used with propablystem that forms
pool formuliert, now are only permanent suffering and subject to change.
One generate a long ging for the supply in liberations,
that's mension I enterpoint and a buy in that base that
the noble ones
no enterpoint in the buyding
In einem One-on-Genermain-Start, solange für die Supreme-Liberation, Greephen-Rises,
mit that longing as condition. Seit Greephens this is got
Greeph based on minanciation. And then my emergan,
one understands that from Sime common and changing bound a disappear,
to faid own seas.
That all form sports formerly and in the present I
am permanent, Doka and bound to seas.
Recollecting this one reflects. When will I attain and duell,
in that's fear, name in this fear,
that the noble ones are tain and duell in.
This is once aspiration but
the highest liberation
The frightending Knowledge of Duca and Sadness give it rise to saidness.
Sadness of his type, his gold saidness, pace done
despecial and of common. In the description of Unibiness based,
und wenn dann sehe ich, und wenn gesagt,
some important terms worth discussing. And others,
so we market, so it's a reference pedactory,
supreme deliverences, knowing as animate there the signs,
up and planeten and the underected and sony, and the way.
The reference to on I,
at then as fear in this possage
is particularly
not worthing
This feel that the noble one's ander one in the way,
den is non other landers fear,
a ludered to in the famous with done, nimmana in yudana.
Beginning with a debikate that that, yet non,
yet than, yet than, yet that, yet non,
yet that, yet non, yet that,
yet non, yet that, yet non.
We have point it down, than this is a reference
to the sessation of the sext sense face as a realization.
So this fear that the noble one's ander one and
a building is diverses session of the sext sense fears
In der Samsuttapasis in Jodana,
Beccame a Crossfit three terms up, put it dong,
up, but what dong it and narram one.
Any stermise, the none continuing and the opticles,
which we identified as a salugenes to the three in deliverances.
The world peer, sonskits, we have longing design,
or curring in this context, shows that then need not
be any hesitation in using voice implying design in connection with need panel.
It is through there,
such a design or longing from Ibana makes one on happy.
But that unhappen is is preferable to the unhappen as based
on the haushole life
That is why this upgraded here is unhappiness based on financiation. Kommen wir in Ihrem Alltag,
this is every important comment, eventually an ananda makes,
there's some time us this tendency of thinking that any kind of design is just wrong,
and this isclyly not aggorithm reflection of early buddhist thought,
when is so distinction between types of design and design even longing,
for liberation, for freedom,
for purefication of the mind are commandable,
because there lead one onwars on the park that eventually will End-up bringing about complete up sense of designs.
End of comment. So far,
we have quited instance as of the 6 kinds of happeness based on the house of our charge, has itani,
summa na sony, 6 kinds of happeness based on Valenciation,
channecken, da man sieht Daniel, summa na sony,
6 kinds of her and happeness based on the house on life,
chang, yasitani don't na sony,
and 6 kinds of unhappeness based on renanciation, channecken,
camerasitani don't
na sony. The 6 kinds befirest to the Obglas of
the 6 sensors
No letter steak up paradant to on the stand,
the 6 kinds of equanimated ebased on the household life, charguess it a open called.
Chakuna Europang, this vote, but your deo Becker,
but last you more last to production as a nort,
don't you nass, a bi-parketing, nass,
a nass, a nass, a nass, a nass,
a nass, a nass.
And seeing a foremd with the eye,
it wanney meet your rises in a fröhlich in fat
weeted worling, in an untod worlding who are not
concord,
his imitations
Was ist nicht Konka, die Results von Kameras?
Und wir sind nicht alle wahr auf Danger.
Suche equantimentierst du das, das nicht transcent formt?
Denn das war descord equanimated based on the household line.
Kommen Translation by Big on January. Once feing a form
with the eye condimented erises in a follish in fightweighted ordinary person
in an untoured ordinary person was not concord issimitation. So
concord that we saw subjection and whis blind on Danger.
Such equanimate years this doesn't not transcenter form.
That is why this cold equanimated embased on the assulway
And to my year my own. The I comes to
know form is in their rises equanimity.
That is the indifference of one is not learn it,
hold lecks with them, and on learn it, ignorant workling.
Such equanimity towards form is not details from form, this is gold
equanimity based on attachment. End of comment. In the equanimity of a worldling,
guntor in the dama, where is not concord limitations and definements,
and where is not concord the results of come on,
is in capable of concending form.
He's equanimity is a company by engorance
Dem kamen es nicht Descriptions, aber ich kann nicht mehr die Base on Renanciation.
Netten kann man sich da drehen. Rupanant we vanitiatang video war,
wie bei den Namen via Ragani rotang, Pop-PEG in Europa,
Eda Reitscher, Sambede, Europa, Anitiato, Parinama,
Dammmatte, Evanmetern und Tarnhodan, Sambanien und Basketo oben, Banya Diobekka.
Ja, ihre Europa, Obekka,
Europa sah Atibatadi das Malsobekka, nennen kann man sie da,
die Wutsche, die Wellen bei Knowing,
die in Bermanence Change, Fading Away Insolvation of Forms,
one seas,
as eductually is
good white miston
That formsport formery now our own permanent suffering and subject to change
. Equalimity erises. Such equanimate years this transcense form,
that is why discord equalimity based on ven on circen.
Kommend Translation by beconyanamoli. Mein by noing we impermanents change,
fading away insization of forms, one see
see that it actually ask with the populistant,
that formersport formuliered now our willing permanent,
suffing and subject to change, equalimity erioses.
Such equanimate years this transcense
the form, that is why this call to quanimity based
on renanciation
And my yema argument vasion. One and the stands,
net form sim permanent, changing bound to disabile and to feel wencers.
That are formsport formulary and in the present,
I impermanent looker and bound to seas.
Me collecting this, one is histablishing equanimity,
equanimity that has minute tain through mental development.
This is core to quanimity based on dispection. Yeah,
I particularly like in the money more
argument that reference to equanimity attain through mental development
Hand of Comment. Wir sehen kind of reflection on in permanent
seponocation give rises to happiness and epones in equanimity according to
the artitude taking up. Unlike the equanimity born of ignorance,
this equanimity born of right whiston transcense form.
That is why this call equanimating ebased on relancieration. The bundarspeaks about doll,
the 36 ombjacks of sense, out of which report up,
but separanime and the illustration given about division object form.
These turney 6 a qual turney is expart ways of means,
changing things as
sagte bandam
In the sense and day to picked in the board batterns of beings.
In this discourse, the buddha problems, the basic maxime,
he employsing gradually channeling and the tough processes,
so beings, tools nebana.
A long this 30, 6 partways.
The maxime is some that been a foreign words.
Tatara, Idanesaia, it don't partiator. The independium this
aveillanet. This maxime has some affinity into the partician some
of bada formula, this being this riles.
In fact, this is a practical application of a same
In the context of the both of practice, the independent,
on one thing is for the purpose, oper mondailing in another.
There is an attituded of detachment, in this course of practice.
Mayston this maxime, in the build the outlines to way,
in which he guys want to what's nippana in forestages.
The first stage in that commanual part towards nibana is discript this follows.
That travicarit, yanicia, that comes it only so monasani,
than in Isaiah, than in Agama.
Yanicia, in Irasitalien, so monasani, than in that,
than in that, than in that,
than in that
Nee, morgen stei independent on and relying on the
six kinds of happiness based on renanciation,
about non interessent in the six kinds of happiness based on the house all life,
that is how they are men and that is how they are transended.
Coming? In tanzlation by in Anamoli, microniamoni. Hier,
micros by depending and we lying on the six kinds of joy,
based on renanciation, and bundan and so more,
the six kinds of joy, based on the house all time.
It is last they are bundant did is that they are
as far amounted.
And the money more animal
By holding to the six stypes of join that are based on dispression,
by depending on them and welling in them,
exting with the six stypes of join that the based on attachment,
remote them, moment amount,
in this way in the out to be eradicated.
And of common. In the same way by depending
on the six kinds of unapping as based on minanciation,
the six kinds of one minus based on the house on lib armanding,
also by depending on the six kinds of equality made the investor financiation,
the six kinds of equality based on the house or life
are abonnent
So I didn't of the first stage, what I will love with.
All what is based on the house or life is left behind.
And only a six kinds of happiness based for minanciation.
The six kinds of I am the his based on renanciation.
And the six kinds of equanimated in based on valanciation bemain.
That is the position at the end of the first stage.
Then in the second stage as sudline more refined level up experiences same that.
Out of the three times of mental states,
based on renanciation, firstly.
The six kinds of Unabiness based on renanciation armand,
by the six kinds of
happiness based on renanciation
Wenn der Sixkins of Happiness based and renanciation are man
and by the Sixkins of Equanimity Investoren renanciation.
To the extent that all the about three emental stays are based or renanciation,
the are of a peace, who the jobber.
Also, it is the same more of insightful reflection that gives rise to lim.
All ever as addituce. Happiness is sattler and we're excellent than unappiness.
In equanimity is sattler that in more excellent than happiness.
Sensitivists near or door wistern. So in the second stage
with you in value procenior,
riving it to suttline more excellence stay,
even in the case of those three emental states based on
Bei dir in Dr. Second Stage only a quanimitted based on realanciation remains.
Now comes to third stage. Here the building our points out
that in the case of bequantimated in the cambit to our borioties.
Athimica veobecca, not not that that ita,
athim hecaree, ovetten cat that ita.
Er ist morgens eine gar nicht mehr die Internet diversified.
Wer ist all diversity? And this an equanimate in that
is unified, based on Unity. Coming translation by a
meconyanamoli. They's because equanimated in that is diversified,
based on diversity. And tastic quanimate in that is unified
, best on Unity
And that my year my other men. They she
quanimit in that is of countless contacts, diverse contacts.
And this equanimity that is open a single contact.
Not of diverse contacts. And our comment. What is
that equanimity that is diversityfied? It is defined test,
the equanimity of the begarding the objects of the five external sensors.
That is to say, we quanimity a redowning fonds,
sorry, smells, flavors and tonjumps. Equanimity that is unified,
this defined with reference to the emitty Europeans,
name in this feel of infinity of space,
this feel of infinity of consciousness,
this feel of nothing this end this fear of nine in the perception,
no one basician
No, in the case of this two times of equantimity and the born
their points how to way of a bundaning the quanimity based on diversity,
with the help of the equanimity based on Unity.
As equanimity, involved types are commandable. But that was his
diversity fight invest on diversity is grossing. Equanimity that is
unified and based on Unity is suckly and more excellent.
So the equanimity based on diversity is a bundant and transident,
by they quanimited this unified, based on Unity.
This is the end of the third stage. In the
forest stage, we are left between in an equanimity,
in this based on Unity
And this experience, the in the higher runnings of meditation.
But you too in the bundar advocacer pludern calls of action.
In fact it is here, not the deepers, practical indisciving. Da haben wir ja dann Wecker, Venesajan. Adam may thank you. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, and we like on no identification,
a bundan in trancentic quanimated that is unified,
based on unity.
That is how is a bundant that is
how is transcened
Comment Translation by Bico Indiana Moni,
Bico Spidey Banding and Relying on no identification, abundant in someone,
economic in that is unified, based on unity.
It is that, this is abundant that distars,
this is so 900, Ende Freunde.
Not neard end of commoned actually, I need do mentioned
that this part is not found in the Monjama Arnama.
No, really end of comment. Attama yet is that,
you have already discuss that lang, they know,
early assonance. It's important, has not pensuficially recognized in
our tradition
As we point it all, to work tom my you,
naturally of thatness. Good explained with reference to that usages,
as so one my year,
and a rather to may year, golden and silver.
How does this of thatness come buy? If for instance,
one we has attent the infinity of space,
as some meditative experience, identifize himself with it,
with the conceed, eason one us me, this is my.
This that tom mayata coming in. At is a
suttle grasping or in other words and me thinking monuna.
In my jinning one, self to be one more than
So, und dann bundeset vice, ist tourbanden and transcellen,
neven that equanimity based on Unity.
By resorting to the maxime of attamumeter, no identification.
The suttle concite and as me is that trace of brasping
with which one drice to cit pretty.
On that, which is impeermanent and changing.
It is the most fundamental associal of existence.
In the sapodhesis hotel of the majimani carrian,
veget a good illustration of the application of this
plance of tour of detailgement,
make nown by the wonder
Suppoli, Suciakom, because it doesn't see catting. Nee,
aber Sanja, na, Sanja, yatthan as a maradia,
digu attameta, wopendum, marabotar.
Jena, jene immanieren die, da tut dann roh die Alliierta.
So, da haben wir ja dann jemanden daran,
da ritt mal ein Tayani, was Sanja, Nasanja,
yatthan as a marabotti.
Nee, attan oben krank, sidi in a paradan, bam
maydi. Ayambi, BKW, Sangbolise, dann.
Bei einer guten Meinung morgens, konsider Stars. Non-Nein-Identification,
even mutiert Themen, dort ist Fear of Nine Reception or Non-Perception,
has been declaired,
weil der Fortschritt war
In such terms has in whatever way the imagine there my
it turns otherwise. So it takes into a content very
no identification and night the excells himself, no endispirities and other,
because of his atainment of this week of night option,
no on perception.
Messt du morgens ist der Nature Hogothman. Common Transnation by
the Cuniana Molly. But it three men constinues that,
no identification, even with the atainment of the base of night the perception or non perception,
as been declaired by the pressed one.
Fine, what dippowere the conceed, the fact is ever
other landet
So putting, no night identification first, he now the laws himself
not disparage is others, because of his attainment of
the base of my the perception, no perception.
This two is the character of a true men.
And the minimal argument, one who has the nature of
a true person, we clicks like this.
The place of one is that that this fee of now the perception,
no one perception is of an image of a time.
However, if we were to masure it,
then that would be clean.
Because of this options of cleaning,
he should receive supporting respect
If advancing in this way, here taste to down one,
with that praising himself for looking down, others.
Man, this is the nature or mature person.
Hand of one. In the suppolice is what the
voter explains, the charactery sticks of a good men.
In this context, the turn suppolice, and good men,
is used exclusively to represent an normally cycle, adias already.
And noble deciple, and less not look a point,
is channing a tainments in the same way,
as in ordning a reminidator, and then in channels.
It's point of you is different. This discourse explains this
you point
Ja gut, Mann, wir flex spicely,
according to that vice gipen by the wunder,
to effect that even to the higher johnniger themen of nine of the resciption
or non perception, the principle of non-ioification must be applied.
Blycon in the maxime made norm by the wunder,
jene, jene, in die Tatort or dianita.
In whenever way they imagine they are by it turns other vice.
This is the maxime, we had this customerly are two.
Vanya nice egoistic imagining. Wenn man denkt,
sie sind Engoistic terms over, something,
my they merry me thinking it terms other vice,
do egoistic imagining it becomes
us thing
And once it become so thing it is bound and on changing begonnen out.
The would mine calls to mine that maxime that norm and refrains
from exalting inselved in dispecting on us on account of his authement.
He does not identifying surf it it. From this is
becomes queer ended atta mayed out on on our emplication is the part turnibana.
So on the bounder grant in the channelizers,
the part ways of thoughts of beings, from the Crossfit is hugler ever.
And finally top sub by directing then to me bound out through no
night infication that that mayed on
No night indification is the watch worrn for clingel free party nipaned.
The Dictim tatta i la me say don't partiada,
they indepenning on this the bundle this,
which the bundle expons in this sala, yeah,
thank you very doing attention,
mona sicatta and inner tension, not my secana.
That is to say and then bracic principle in this Dictime
is the method of incurriging in attension to gross and things.
But become ending our appetanting to is other things.
So it's seeing us that ball the tension in in
attention and geben and importants and this präsidium
In nura to liminute walting by an intention,
attention to some other tängless where come in it.
For the purpose of in a tension to something cross,
a tension your something suttle is taken out.
But that is not the end of it. Even that
is expert, with their hype of something suttler.
You we have a wonderful to knee,
best on the two principle zock pragmatisement quality bety.
Nächste two terms comprey and den thai and gummined of
the pather
practice symbolism
Pragmatisiere means for some practical publis, relative means individuation to something years.
That this as a means toolent. And not absolutely as an
end into saw. So in this system of practice,
everything has a pragmatic and reality value.
The question of a tensional ina tension as socially understood in
that background. Erkläre ihre stression of the method of elemination
of cross the mental states with the help of succlamental states by idensional
ina tension, comes in the vitaca santanas at the other of
the majimanicaya. They are the bundary explains this method,
making use up a simity of a capenter
Sehe Tabim, heckenkawé in der Korbalagandorva, Balagandandan de Vasiva,
Sukumaya, Arnia, Olarika, Amini, Hanei,
Amini, Harvey, I've been you my jay,
I've been you my jay, I've been you my comic,
I've been you my jay, you my jay,
you my jay, you my jay, you my jay,
you And justice morgens as guilt carpenter or a supplend is,
might no comment, drought,
and we more the core spec by means or a fine one.
Ihm so morgens when a monk or finest that due
to some sign and buy attending to some sign,
they are rising him, evil and skiffer tots,
connected with desay everythy, them it illusion, that more pongs,
should a tend to some other fine in its stand.
One that has to do what this skillfon. Coming translation
by micronianamoly. Justice as guilt carp and does is a prentice,
might not court me more, find expect a corespect,
by means of a fine one
So tue, when it is giving attention to some sign,
and waying to that sign they are rising him eable on wasn't
parks connective with desire, with hey, time with tilusure.
Then issue, you potential, some others sign,
connective with all this hose. And the might imagine,
it is justice a carpent our our carpent to supprentice,
might apply and ink string to a peace of wood,
to marker straight line.
And then jump to wood with the shop ain's to make
it straight. In the same way,
because the sign has led to the rising of honorson tots,
the monkens that attentions to a different sign,
blade door this hose
So that even and wasn't thoughts with no longer rights.
And there money my arm has quite and different similary here.
And that was say your find the partybirsion similary more fitting to the context.
And our comment. Now let a straight wonder stand the point of the similary,
when for instance a carpenter in fitting out in door,
finstanties driving a blondnail,
hicks dracts hit with the help of a sharper one,
he texts up the sharper näher and just more the purpose
of extracting the blondnail
So one results to a skill for tart expellent the owns
you full tart as as a means to an end.
This kind of pragmaty from velity for problem. The wards
tenacious crossbing and dogmatic involvement. There spirit of the love
depending and rising and rises to the into hack course of buddhist practice.
Calminating in that come my at all, no line-inification.
The two downs course to line, a course to love
and diserver, special attention in this kontext.
The basic maning of course that as skillful in Akustara mins anskillful.
Here again, we have something about it to skillful
place of poses anskillful. And gets a value involvation to
the letter
It has no absolut value. You make use of the skillful,
in one of took a shareway the anski of one.
That done, there is not what I'm broken on to that.
As one's last resort is at tom may done, no nidentification.
That this wine, there is no problem over clonging,
coming in. Coming on, yeah,
this is again a found this and very important coming by Venovania an anda,
as particularly in our tera,
war natürlich hinterher as sometimes and very understandable emphasis on the portants up or this,
coos to last skillful
or aliserne, but the aspect
of attamiata,
no nidentification
Is not seen with sophis and clarity. Besters speautiful precials,
I think, it's in Somala Monica Sutter.
Sillawa hohe Nordjes, Sillama your virtues, but not made often virtues.
I think that very powerful it brings on that same thing that one of users,
more alrealanty, one does what is skillful.
But when does not construct sense of identification,
attachment and conseed based on that?
Hand of comment
Oh, Discussion of that's a layer than our vibrator,
brings to light and other unique feature of this time.
In other religious systems, the question of realities,
resolved by having, because to unity.
One as as a poss to be in the Ultimate Goal.
In our analysis of the Sanctialic bomblen,
we oft an referred to and validy or diggotta we.
Everywhere, we were confronted with it reality.
But to grass in the two ass one in song
form of one less is not the way out
Instant we are fear as the final solution, Atommaier,
that on non identification. A clean free approach in the last analysis.
Kommen ja, I cannot help again expressing my appreciation for this point.
Besser considable dojectory in a mon buddhist practitioners to missard on the need
of non-identification even with the idea or the experience of unity.
Unity as indeed not the file solution for the problem of duality.
The final solution is up that mayata
End of Comment. It is in the nature of Sang-Salic
Existers that is that dings find them somebound and fetted.
This fett is a crawl Sang-Yody Nami, embining or a refetter
emplies too, as man too bulls are tight together.
The turmoparadan is also quite often used. It emplies are
holding on to something. There are too in the national
of a duality comes him, one or holds and the thing hand.
It is not that allly easy took fun
seen this doality charactery stick of Sang-Salic Existence
Nice is the Crugs of the Word Problem.
Unity or one mysis not the solution.
It has to be solve with extremely do disciousness.
In the very first discurs of the some your tanny cay,
we get is solution to the problem, we free stated.
The discurs is called organ that are now that the crossing of long.
And was give and plight of place probably necrosove its importants.
Ade, the comes in Asterbuddha, Catang not tong,
manis a ogan atteri, how did you see a cluster flon?
And the buddha hans is, aber die tang quana,
wo es nur ein nahe Johann Organ attering
Without terring friend, and without harring detail cross deflohen.
But the daily, vor allen Dingen, the answer two enegmatic asks.
Ja, target than, panat my maris up at it
thang, am na, yohan, organ laterin.
But how exactly is it's that you cross deflohen,
without terring, and the don't harring.
Then the wood the mags in expandatory statement. Yeah,
that's one, I was so santitatmit, dann da,
so sang sie, Darmi. Ja,
da sagen auch mal so, ah, yo,
Harmin, da, da, so neben Boy Harmi,
even congrams, up at it than na,
When neue Fran Terry, I found myself thinking,
when I find Harry and I found got suwepto way.
And so fran without turing with that Harry,
you did did cross the flying. Coming Translation by a
bical body. My name to a stand silfriend, then I think.
But when I struggle, then I'm got swepto way.
You dis in this way friend that by not
halting and by not straining, I cross the flying.
And he again there. I've sonny up the argama,
powerline which combase basically the same sense and
of comment
Wenn der DED being pleased atter to falling vers in a probation.
Cheerdos, so what about Sami, blah, money,
but in the mutter, up at the thang,
you hang, didn't look, gewisser mutiger.
Oh, work längered of timers and say be held a same
with all his pessions quote. One night that tarring,
no it harring has cross to worlds, iscossity, craving.
Come on Translation by bigger body. After long time at last
I see, a brahm and who is fully question.
Wobei, not harding, not straining as cross
over attachment the world
And here the some you to
algum of paraly again giving pretty much to same meaning.
And of common. This discord song crossing the floor and videos some
salien features of the middle par. If a person crossing
call up in a middle coming, crises to stestill,
he was thing. If it's simply stonners,
to is cape, he will gets web to way.
So like a good swimmer, he has to our void
both extremes in by mains of a mind full and systematic radimifort.
Workout his freem. In other words, yes,
to drive,
not strive
So wegeneinander stehen, weil in der Bunde,
in der ich fast zusammen bin, in der Namen meiner Jugend,
in der Discord-Sonderturning auf der Bühne, proklamieren, testen,
middle part, die noble late full part.
Avoiding ball to extreme software tatschement do sensuality,
came a succalican yoga, and self-modification attackile matani lona.
Hier tun die Implication as that the in time round
or existence is a what a current,
to the cross over my means of a systematic and grandio effort.
In some of or early a sermans,
why unerly in the law of dependent orizing,
remade used up this similary of the bottext for easy comprehension
Now, if we are to ticke it up again,
we may say, that it is in the nature of being,
is in song southern, to get drifted,
my the current of preparations, song carda,
welling to ignorance, I vidill, and coordin revolving,
we 20 consciousness, viniana and name in from namen Europa.
These ignorance in der Form of the foregrade perceptions,
name in the perception of permanence in the in permanent,
their perception of pleasure in the peniphone,
their perception of beauty in the repossive,
and the perception of self, in a not self,
give rise to the runnerway,
carrent of water,
which keep running around and world,
between consciousness and
nehmen for
Und das ist es am saarigen Wort ex, Sang Sarah war down.
North for instance, if we through even a small leave
to a spot, where there is a votics,
it wasn't keep revolving. Similarly, all over the some
suddy existence duality holds way. There for freedom for me,
can be one only by a suttle form of striving.
That is wire the bunde just a tutance up at it
dong and a nayohan.
A voting the two extremes of studgnation and stuckling,
one has to cross the front,
going in the middleway
When the proclaim that freedom can be one only by the middle way,
a voting boat extremes. The extremist feel lots of a
sophie is they criticized in dispiration team, saying, then
you're breaching a doctoren of bewilderment. We're find such an
instance of acquisition in the maragandia suptor of the Anti-Kamera gehofft,
the sudden in Berlin. The brahm in Marvania Poyses,
the following question in the mundiam. And Jettas and die,
die, ja metama tang, cathan in the hear every tang,
that which the call in what piece,
in what tomes have the wise prooklym that piece
Coming-Transsation bei Pickle Woody. As to that metal call to piece within,
how is it program by the wise and of coming?
The wood as answer dr. falling form. Naditiana sollte ja nanja nennen,
sie labert in Habi, wieso denn die Marho?
Aditia, soptiaaniana, assyrienetab, Madanobi-Dina. Editianisanja,
a nogahaya, santo an Isaiah, Bavan, metjape,
not by views, not a learning, no vannowledge,
no yet by vote you and holy boss.
They say a compurity come
Nein, The Kate kam bei Being with I views learning and
no lines, without but you and how you was.
Letting go of the more, crass pink not one,
that peaceful one, leaning on now, but hunker,
now, per existence, coming transcation by Being being on body.
Not by view, not by knowledge, not by learning.
No, do I speak of beauty, to good be
heavy and observances. But nine of with art,
you, without learning without knowledge, without good behavior,
without abservances, not in that way.
But having relink with these, not pass being any of them,
peaceful, not dependent, one should not
hanker for existence,
and the found
Herr, das ist der Brahman Margania, was Puzzle ist,
und der Kuss ist der Bund der Briverikation.
Nordische Kirche erleben Diana Suttian und Jarnina, Silabatenabi,
wieso nicht immer, an die Diana, Arseeland, der Abendmadan,
Orbi-Dana, Maniama Hangmann, haben wir hier mit anderen.
Und die Diana-Ege, beiden Gendisuppen-Dingen, if no by views,
no by learning, no by noise, neue by virtuen,
hoi vois, computer to be one,
if it comes not with our views learning,
no legend with our viretune, hoi vois, well,
then be wild,
them and itself,
I think is this time
For their same claim purity vavious. Colin Translation by become
body. You find it is not by view by learning,
no by knowledge, no by good be heavy on opservences,
that one speaks oppurity.
Now without beer on without a running without knowledge with down
good be heavy and observences, not in that way.
I think this is an outdoory confused teaching.
Some for back compunity by means of year. End of
comment. Now there is two vs. call for some comments.
First eat this on my problem a out my invedings in
bold these vs. we follow the weading and these suitany
Where are some editions accept a reading narsoning ahab.
Where the negative seem suppear floors, we suddem,
seem smart medium for heme. In der kommentary explanation and
all this tour versus seems to go for the tendent.
It says that the negatives in a first tour lines of
the buddhist reply and we firt to wrong views,
long learning, ong knowledge, wrong got you and long bours.
In it live that in fortline, with right to right view,
right turning, right knowledge, right view to and by bours.
In other words, it is sony a question of wrong views,
micheredicty and vive you some more tity.
This interpretation, this is the suttle pointed
issue in this time
If it is a simple last that,
this not grown format and the use accussation.
Other religious teachers who disputed but digital that.
And used to a certain that purity as a tain dony
by their views, learning numbers, virtuo and boss.
Here then in this not a question of difference
with we micha did you in some mind it.
Hier is something more vanical consulting somematity isself.
Acquarding to this and light approach, the use etc. cannot totally
me dispens mist. No, are then to big most?
We come back now to the two keywords pragmatic and religiate
That is via in the boulder to claired that purity cannot
be a tain by views learning knowledge but you enbows,
no in the upsunce of these qualities.
This is an apparently content dictory stickment,
rechiva puts in a nutshell, the assence of the mittelpart.
The in what peace, mentioned in the app auf kontext,
is nothing other than the clinging in free perfect extinction.
And urbana parent men,
that becomes clear by the last treelines of the buddhist with line,
edition is and young a higher,
somethony says a long land to pay
Ja, Dingo of the Maul, Grasping not one,
that peace three one, leaning on
one would hanking the more for existence. Coming translation my bigger bowly,
but having a lang with these not does ping any of them,
peace for not depend and one should
not hanking for existence and of coming. Wir kennen Cross
the world on is it and our discussions about need marning.
For instance in the cryptic formular, nissid as a Charlitan,
and nissid as a Charlitan not and the two the one
attached this way vering, two in the unattached one,
there's no way very
Thing on a touch, this no hengring for existence,
when this crusting there's existence.
We may, we're word to assimily of sharping arazon.
The constituence of the part, they have to be taken up,
as want takes up a brazor for sharpening, ready to let co.
Once the purpose is surf, they have to be given not.
That is the dictum on the line this tire look in
dem magan yesupted. Now, become to discore switch clearly
and on me stakeably presence this extraordinary first pensupon.
The discourse is the rather venited
soldat of the multimanicay
Here is not a case of arguing with the running.
The in the locute is in this discourse,
that oom stolwards, auch this dispensation.
Nimm dir, wenn du was salipot nennst,
wenn du eine Polynamondale holst, dann.
They are long distress, discussion on the part of practice.
Unforwarding its self-in dialogue form, was not men,
for any clarification of downs for and sounds.
It was promary in spired by a benever and wish to
have on this. To those margandingers in the world.
War ignorant of the pragmatic nation and relative value of the
buddhist middle par. For easy comprehention, we present
this discourse in Tweeparts
Fürsterful, wenn du Massali-Putter postest, der voll in quashen tut,
wenn du von nummer und deinen Butter. Ging nukua,
wo Chasilla gesunde Angst hatte, war, dass sie die Wortfände,
das ist for the sake of purification of but you,
and that the holy life is live done the fortune one,
and to many or pull
no montanian butter we place no friend. And then
you said for the sake of biofication of mind,
that the holy life is live done the fortune one, no find.
Then is it for the sake of purification of view,
biofication of overcoming down,
purification by knowledge in vision of what is the part,
then what is not about,
purification by knowledge emission of the way,
purification by nord emission
That the holy life is lived on the 40 one,
no friend. Then, but no Salibutta ask,
for the sake of what them friend,
is to really life and lived planet the 40 one.
Friend it is for the sake of perfect neban over that klinging,
that the holy life is lived on the 40 one.
Coming Translation by Jana Moni. But friend it is for
the sake of biofication of virtual one at the holy life
is lived one at the best geworden.
Auf nothing. Then it is for the sake of purefication of mind,
purefication of view, crimification by overcoming down,
purefication by long at the envision of what is the bar,
and what is not about,
purefication my knowledge envision of the way
Direfigation by Knowledge Invision, that the hold you life is lift on that messible.
No find. For the seak of what ten find is
to hold you life live gonna besser one.
And the miniam argument. Are you practicing the holy life
on that the renancy and go to more for the sake of biofigation of mind,
for the sake of biofigation of view,
for the sake of purefigation, from the hinderns of down,
for the sake of biofigation by Knowledge and vision,
no,
what is the part and what is not to part?
For the sake of biofigation by Knowledge Envision of the way,
for the sake of purefigation by Knowledge of the way to
a banany
Twitch, question, ponea mandanibut their replied not so.
In the case for the sake of what,
die a practice in the holy life under the minancian good emer.
Ja, before continuing are wanted to discuss a lot of nettal.
The beginning of this discussion. In der Marjumanica your
vosion the first question, side a put ourses,
bangavatinue, voss, that you life lift
under their places one friend. Which is the kind of
first strange question to a ask for buddhist monk,
to ask and other buddhismum
And now you we look at, my arm of our,
he as when the holy life is cardiavated under their recluse gotaman.
And this is actually the way in the sariporter keeps,
referring to the buddha in the multime argum of votume.
And we find this is actually supported by some sudscript fragmilles.
Have they survive on you may few
small pieces of the
sunscript version
Heute disclaimed that here two, he uses,
sharma 9, the next week at counterma.
And we find another line where the expecion buggerwarn is you is so,
it is client that there is also here exchange of question answer where one person
users sharma and an counterma. And the otherwarn buggerwarn.
And if you look at this from the view point of our transmission,
in the reading schlammaner Gautamahn, Recluse Gotama is the more Unusual reading. Und so,
if that should have been found in the party version at song early our point,
it would have been very easy for it to get corrected,
so to say, doing or transmission,
because that recyclers would have been aware of the effect that it is pride in a probably it for saly put that,
we firt ways
tiger the wunder as record scotamer. Neue to tiger start
back and look at the whole situation. In the setting
of this discussion is that at an early our point,
saly put the head, heart, Hundemann,
Daniel Hutta being praised in the presence of the bund.
And at that time me that like, oh, I hope,
I'm a the able to meet this, Bunermann, Daniel,
put and have a discussion but him in the future.
And then it a lated time Bunermann, Daniel,
put that actually comes to visitable. And another monk tells,
Harley Potter look, this Punermann, Daniel Potter has come,
you always wanted to discuss with him, that is your occasional.
And so then is Sany Putter goes to meet punerman Daniel Putter,
and the whole idea seems to be and that he wants
to teaser hope,
pon montiny putters wistern
And effect that the end of the discussion bundessays,
when sally put that then we viols is identity at the end of the discussion bundessays war, gefight,
now that now are sally put that, I'm talking to,
I would have never going into such an deep and explanation.
So because an seine puttermores why famous for us with them,
it was important for him,
not than give away is identity to early,
because you would not have been able to teas out,
such a powerful and deep that, explanation from Bunderman Bunny Putter.
And so in this setting for Saniputter tour void, Eva,
being asters name, which won the might have done,
here fear at vealize that he's talking to another buddhist monk.
It extremely ex a lot of sense for sally porter to
pretent, not to me a buddhist.
And here again as background the discourse, of course,
we don't know exactly where when to place this rather metasuta in
the ovall history of early would is an bud another is not mentioned.
And so this makes at possible than this discourse should be
low cated at an early are time,
when another had not yet become the buddhist attendent
And be find in the vinner yeah,
in episode with the buddha ask ananda,
to device a way of soring roads.
So that the resemble the pattern of petty feels.
And this episode is found in the different vinner years
and some of them give as a introduction neration that quantiporary
king have been paying respects to some ascitics,
mistaking them for buddhist morgens
So the idea seems to be that the bundard gives this instruction
to another to develop a certain way of making mob.
So that buddhist morns buddhist monastics, nan so, so.
Become more easily recognizing. From the view one of then episode
and it would seem that at and earlier time before the
bundar give this instruction to another buddhist monastics when not easily recognizing.
You've that should hold for the butter venited sitter. It
would mean that's sunny putter, was not bunner that never
mad him before, sunny putters worms would prosumably have been of
the type generell used in engine in your by weckloses and not distinctly buddhist.
And by using schwarm on our time, he would also
not give him aself a way as a munish.
It would's mean that he as ablen to tease out and
multivate point to give this detern explanation by in a
way without of course like and and he way,
but just by prettending to be a non-buddhist.
And that now going is a little bit a long story,
but It's not just about this discourse, because if
this whole rereconstruction, issue be somewhere closed to award the
text is about. It would in journ have constitual implications
on a seven stages of durification. Because the seven stages
of purrification are only found in this one discourse.
And they are part of a set of 9 purrification,
where they time use this partys on the instant of visually,
and then as hotel that last discourse of the neganicary,
a long list
of doctrinalite
Otherwiseday, no doc, in the early discourse,
they are a element of rather secondary impotence.
Eve say about was pretending or playing the part of non-being a non-buddhist.
He would of course not have been able to formulate his questions,
with some teaching that his typically buddhist. Means that my suspicioness,
my impressioness, that these stages of purification,
maybe not complete set of seven,
but individual of them,
where I und years generally floating in the engine
indian setting
And said, we early a hand a passage from Magandiashoto,
where he are search, did you ekely,
partian this sudden, some here get empurate through you,
so that's very clean in the publification by a viewers
and publification by morality is obvious.
And so my empression my argument my high potter this,
my suggestian is,
that the seven states of publification where not ain disstinctly
buddhist teaching
Not even center in early bolisse. But they are an assembly of different ideas,
of what the goal of living the whole life,
they city bit life might be, purity of morality,
beauty of views etc. And there's strong together here in a series.
In the context of sunny put to playing the part of
a non-Buddhisk. And wanting to see,
how put no mand any put to handles,
the question, with other holy life,
the certainbit life,
the life of practice and the buddha
is for the purpose of anyone of these
I still haven finished. And other aspekt that is
no interesting also as that very effect that this 7 stage
of biofication of found only in this one discourse.
Seems to have a head and important impact on buddha gross is
euro is. Buddha gross echnisse visualimanga users the 7
stages of biofication as his basics couffering.
And this is how the 7 stages of biofication have become
of partic mightic empoints in the tire by tradition
Nor Budagosa, seems to have head, another work,
ass he's president. This is the Mutti-Manga.
Work that now a days is only accent in Chinese.
It's shorter. It's the somewhat more practical.
And it doesn't not have this certain stages of biofication.
Need only, we first to some of them,
in a kind of by the way men.
And so from as far a cycle see,
when Budagosa was given this task of
What was was happening to profis abilities,
so that you will be interested with the task of retranslating,
the commentaries, now extent a deptime extent in singer,
into party, as part of this overhole project of promoting,
the hobby harder in its competition but
Armayan year invest to a monasters where in competition with
the gender, in she long and, aber agiered it
was the one more open to and interested in general depollaments in
Bodhismin India and them how me have a worst on more conservative one.
And this whole project wash to
stankender conservative
Position of the marvey hara,
and within that context buddha goes a rise, the visudimaga,
and the takes apparently his inspiration from the we monty maga,
but he kind of try to do better than that we monty maga in a way,
do be more comprehensive by using the seven stages of pureufication,
how every in doing so he made a made a blonder.
The seven stages of pureufication don't not include of final goal.
Even in the semerly, the seven carriots,
they only lead the can percinate to sarkin,
but then histor has to get off the last
cherry and get into the pallace
And there seven biofication is just in knowledge and vision yanna lesson.
And in the 9 falls came,
et is only that we get we motive is studio,
we motive partys what they liberation are as a sibioification.
And would a gross up then is seens to have a miss out on this aspect,
because he ports the four par and the four fruits,
the four levers on wakening undern the seven biofication.
This does not square with the implication of the seven biofication.
So it seems to have made a blonder there.
And this in again is only understandable because he such an
errorlight mong, because of effect that decerven
publifications were until his time, not really ascentral element in Buddhistown.
And it is only to do emanga that they become so cell.
So that was a very long comment and assume my suspect that
also even one of my articles on this topic as their beaning for this necture.
And of comment now. So the ensemble of part one
of the Dialog is that the whole life is not lift
on the the 40th one for the sake of any of those scurifications.
But for something called on a Upana by the nipalon.
Perfectly partner without clinging
9, what we would call part to of the dylock,
when aber shady butter highlights their contridictions in the answers, giving so far.
Some would like maga näher. A perly in there's am nine
for clification. Yes, but friend this purefication of virtue,
perfect ney by not thank thing, no friend.
In this way as with a any of the understages of biofication,
up to an including purefication by knowledge envision, is perfect nebal over talk clear.
Manual pon a answers in the negative. Wenn du eine side butter ast,
King Panavo Sonja 3 minda me, Janupana parinipana,
but friend this perfectly banan,
but talk linging to we are tained without this things.
No friend. So then it looks is if the trend
of contraintection has going to hand. 9 part three of
the diere look we find, wenn man seine Butter,
Rhetonicaly, soming up the previous section of a tyler.
When ask, much friend, this poification of virtual
perfectly banan with a thing, you replyed
no friend, tenson. Sighting even the last negative response
And when ask, but trend this perfect me,
but I would have to be tained with outdistance, you replyed
no friend. And rounds up bei Asking with a burn exaspiration,
yeah, danke, danke, banalus and master basic atto nature.
All than friend can one understand the meaning of the statement.
So rather domatically in the stage is no said,
for my love and burn no montany butter to come more
to the deepest point in the discussion.
Sina, visual in chaos and maggawanu parana parana
parana parana besson. Sauper, daning, every someone.
I mean, you parana parana parana
Friend is the fortunate one had in design daysignated purphication of virtue,
as perfectly mind of tuckling, you would have daysignated what
is till our company by cleaning as perfect nibana without cleaning.
Common Translation by ninea moin. Friend of the place it
one had in this quite purefication or virtue as finally
bana would up linging. You would napt this cribe,
more this till a company by clean as fallen libana would up linging.
And to my year my other month. Venom of friend,
diff the place it one, there minanciate good to more.
What do the signaten year way now without reminder for the
sake of biofication of virtue
Then that would be to place, what is with out
reminder of cleaning, as being the down to reminder.
Then it would be to place quite is with element of cleaning,
as being with out, to reminder of thing and of comic.
In the same strain, ingo one to applied this criterion
to the other stages of purification and final brings on the
absurdity of the other extreme in the volling was.
And yet to chiavols in that me januar pada padding in Barning
aber visit, put to journal party in my year,
but do you know yeah, it was on your train
made humble. Any friend, perfect in eminding that clean,
where do be attained with out the states?
Then year an ordinary worldling, whatever tain,
perfect new by now was our thing
For an ordinary worlding friend is with all these states.
Coming. Translation my big on Jana Moli. And if
Nibano with a cleaning, where to be a thing without these states.
Then ordinary person, then would have a tain finany banner.
For all only personals without disstates. And the minia maranament.
A minia ma friend, diff the world, on not one, why
don't day signature and money will love remain,
there are part from these things.
And a worlding should also have a tain year
banner with a remain, because the worlding assource a part
from these things
Yeah, I find this particular passage inquesting,
because sometimes we get claims of people having wearlized emptiness whatever,
who have never than any kind of practice.
Not even more relity, or anything else.
And I find this very helpful has a point in
that they needs to be some degree of practice.
Some purification of more relity of a view and
of the mind as precondition for the moilization of Neomanu.
It does not happen just out of nothing without any
kind of preparation
End of Comment. Now we can see how suttle this question is.
Semply because that now now of the above stays is perfectly
banal with that clear. They can on be dispense men
. We have already this cast the significants of the allagat
nupermassot Dennis concern. There we game a cross to similar
is. The similar of the raft. And this semily
of the what the snake. To cale raft on once
shoulder out the crossing is one extreme.
To take the what the snake by stale is the above extreme.
The middle bass lies between these to extremes
And that is the implication of them of statement,
that this profitly minding that thing is a ten with out the states.
Then even an order high welfing,
what ever tained for he has an one of them.
For further clarification of this point, the manual bounderman than in
Butter comes out with this seminary of the relay of cherrious.
King by seminary of course seller, why living in salaty,
has some argued business to set let's sarked it.
Between Savadians, Saga, there seven veleciare yets are capital
vady vorhin. The King mounts the first relate cherrious and
by means of vehter rise at the second relate cherrious.
Then in this mounts from the first velate cherrious
and mounts the second jam yet
By maine is of the second charge here visit to that third charge yet.
In this way finally arrives at sarget it, by means of the seven serious.
Then mut this friends and velatives in sarget that asking,
sir, did you come from summer did you sarget that armaines of this gerriot?
You cannot we bly in the affirmative. You has to
relate the whole story of passing from charge to charget.
Heaven gib in this seminars and illustration,
but we're bundant naman tanny butter,
some some the correct solution to the point it issue,
in the forming never voice.
Even me ever core, more society,
ever missue that
Chitta missioned, ja, aber die Vanitte,
die die Dimission der Jahre, die wir kaum in Gavidada haben,
die sind dann kranker Vitara, eine Sudi Yara,
die war Mangarama, wenn ja, und das, na gesunde Amt.
Magama, Maganiana, das ist eine Sudi Yara,
der war Praktipathan Yara, der war Praktipathan Yarama,
der war Yarama, und dann war es so, ja,
aber der war nur ein paar, der Brinne Palnette.
Ich habe nur ein paar in Imana, danke,
dass ich ein paar in Bratmette ernähren musste. Eben so,
Friend, Piorification of New, ist purpose, for us,
first, beautification of the mind. Piorification of mindest purpose,
for us,
first,
piorification of
Beautification of view is purpose for us, far as Beautification
my overcoming down. Perplication by overcoming down this purpose
for us, far as perprification by Knowledge evision,
what is the part and more is not about?
Pre-offication by Knowledge and mission of what is the part
and what is not about this purpose for us,
far as perprification by Knowledge and mission of the way?
Purefication my Knowledge and mission of the ways, purpose,
food as far as Beautification my Knowledge invision.
Purefication my Knowledge invision is purpose for us,
far as perfect me, by not linging,
it is for perfect nemina with up linging,
that dony live is live tounder the botschaft more.
Coming Translation
by Bikoniana Molly
So, do friend, them polification of virtua is
for the sake of Vegan purefication of mind.
Peerfication of mind is for the sake of freegin purefication of
4. Peerfication of views for the sake of freaking purefication of
overcoming down. Purefication of our coming down,
this what are sake of Vegan purefication by nord and vision
of port is the basis and what is not about.
Purefication by nord and vision or and what is the part
and what is not about? It's what a sake
of Vegan purefication of mind not in vision of the way
. Purefication by nord and vision of the way is for
the sake of freaking purefication by in knowledge and vision.
Purefication by nord and vision is what a sake of reaching
file libana,
what upting
It is for the sake of financy bowling with up things,
that the holy life, this left one of the missard one.
And the my emanning. In the same way venom a friend.
And small more pre-infication of virtue, one a tends beautification
of mind. To pure offication of mind, one of the inspire offication of year.
The appliefication of year volentant speaufication from the hennings of down.
The appliefication from the hennings of down,
qualitants biofication by 99 and mission of wayne is the part,
and what is not taba.
To pure offication by not hen viction of way is the part,
and what is not the part, one of the insbiofication by not
hen vasion of the partway
Deprification my knowledge in vision of the way, one it
things biofication my notice. Of the way to a wandering.
To peer fication by notice of the way to a binanning,
the blissed it one dising that's new my name than we name.
Hand of comment. The keyword in this grun fine year
love this domantic exposition is, yeah, what even.
Simply render dimains just for that is,
the sufficing condition for something earns.
Proposy and is to distor watch work,
upholding the twin principles of pragmatis a mandorelity mity
In the light of the illustration by relate chariots,
this watch words dance for that in personal moment and more imputers.
Required for any minimum cores of proposive action.
Or quoding to the law of dependent arising. So we
see how the wonder this cover than late beer in the
first principles of a universal or conducy of do ones emancipation.
Here is a series of states. In which one states
to be made user for beaching another.
And that for weaching yet another. But none of which is
to be grass per se. This is the distinction,
it we in more this gold upaddy
or sang-sanic asset and neuropoly or the asset less nibanon
In the case of those marital us indeeds, productive of songs
ally assets, one goes on accumulating and amazing them.
But for the embanic state of in Europa,
the eneas at less, there's a different approach.
One state leads, sagt to another, and that to yet another.
In a cordon's with the similar of their relate channels.
But not not them is to be grass per se.
One grass per 9, that purpication of view,
not purpication of the 9. Not purpication of your, the even
pirification by nonely in Bayern. Neben Nemore Behind than regimed
the stuttles of the more, they comes to final
let go
2018, dass die Perfekte Extinktion top klingt.
Ich bin ein bisschen in Bayern. Das ist das,
was in der Stadt ist.
Thank you for your attention