Wellcome to on the online calls on the inebounder summons,
12 to 2022, my embecca catacrona near ananda,
collaboration between the number to center for bully studies at the University of Hamburg,
and the maris center for buddy studies and most a cuse ets.
And today,
we will we looking at summon number 18,
might before that the few extacts from
the very lively discussion
And very interesting discussion on our online follown,
we lated do on a serman 7th.
Du musst willkommen bei Justin Brown in meinem Practice Resulting.
I have been especially attentive to leaning forward and bleaning back.
The heart of my one back,
this is to try to be aware when I find
myself antisebelling the future or we great in the past.
I know this this to the best of my
amility empbring my itension back to the present moment.
Yeah, his comment is invelation to that
Special type of Samadhi. Which I
was so find very intraining from a practical perspective.
And I like the idea of taking the first band,
not chaminatona, chapanatona, not leaning forward and training backward.
As well reference to leaning forward, what's to future
leaning backwards to what's the past.
In then, in there reminder, na, Sankara,
nicken Gaya,
Walter,
In practical sense, I paraphrase, I would paraphrase this
as meaning basically, the dight any kind of familication.
And what I find also significant from a practical perspective,
in particular, giving in mind, that to calling to the chines parallel,
this is a reference to signless concentration of the mind,
animate, you to summadi.
Is there and showing partner,
the mutter that to tito in tito in tito to Being free,
free in the scense, that this is a kind of natural resting
in some mady rother than being in eye kind of fummlication,
construction, constant, in the mind is steady.
And then did that are sandusit on,
I found particularly important, do to being steady discontented.
This to my mind, brings in the aspect of
that suttle pleasure of being pleasant feeling of being in
the present moment
I find this is a very emportant part in
any meditation practice, but particular with this type of.
Unfabricated, Samaney practice is very important,
because this is bold keeps the mind in the present moment.
It doesn't need any other support, but just out of this, this Santositanes contentedness.
And Santositano partidacity, the mind this Wrestling Initself Yeah,
I would parafrace is unruffelt, it can't be identitated
or beshaken, because of this barry condition of
unruffeltness. And this is also,
high, I related this to this signalist I mension,
because not tagging up any sign, der ist nur involvement,
what's whatever with what happens.
And any of the sensors.
And so it's there's no way of getting ideed or shaken
Anyhound, this is just. I little made of a
practice related reflections on this way interesting discription of a summer de.
In the not serman, in the ongood renicaya,
where then Venom ander confirms that this is belated to Anjaballa
to the Fruision of Benedry diff knowledge.
Ben their voice will coming bei Bico Sanghamanji
So it seems that for the other hunt,
everything that could possibly be experienced in this world of the six sensors,
the five thunders, the formen formers round has seest.
Sesation of whatever, decult be take an histance abonn.
But still this and noing of that, he's persipient,
it's not just a blankout.
And it's not knowling of the six sensors, including the mind.
The mind seasors and perceptions of mind objects fate away.
Two this experience and the wareness of it,
where in everything one has possibly identified but before has vanished,
it must beclear that not know of this camited thing this
lasting substansion as as a south
And that I think that nicely summarises,
the inside the mension and the actual experience of nimmana.
And then this Robert Crosshho to cup that indication given by Venomine
ananda to look at the sociation of St. Caders,
as a practice as a based long, inside the mension.
He says, I did try in the past days,
to active thing bring my mind to no litting as assation,
and again in the again,
doing meditation,
also doing daily life
Focusing on the ending of the inbread and the output for feelings,
perceptions, for me in daily life it this especially strong to not is
this issation of wilder perception and wilder omness.
Mental omness preparations. Actively in clining my mind,
do it's noticing the anning of phänomena,
very much help my mind to say in the present noment.
I know that ultimately the mind will in client to resperspektive,
but it's a through falling the paar.
And that this is than the really transforming perspective.
But these help followers, so for beginning to get the
mind use to this perspective
And to take a look from that view point of
sessation from time to time. From this perspective,
I can see it that whatever and dream my had about the future,
it is mily imagining and will end anyways when confronted bit reality.
Yeah, I found this way beautiful and pragmatic direct
approach to a content plating sessation. And yeah,
the Kim braud up they importance of is being just a
contemplation of that session not are pushing or wanting things to says,
as this quite then be Leaning towards the Mavatana, the craving for non-becoming.
And I are like to add also that this sessation,
it is also not the type of momentary nost,
that we find in later tradition.
So looking at session, and it can be done even know,
as I am speaking and you are listening to just be
aware that the very continuity of this talk as the manifestation
of change
And that change means that everytime some aspect of this situation is seasing.
But it doesn't mean that association the sense of that Annario stuff here,
gone, here and gone, here and gone.
But just that some die mentioned of the experience of this experience
of this continuous made talking and you listening is seasing on
the time that that is a cersation that mentioned to be seeing in every moment of experience.
So this does not denite the fact of continuity
Bald it as a shift of perspective their eleas to countering
the natural tendency of the untained mind to look only at beginnings,
or continuity, and there are by getting a complete upperception of in permanence in all its dimensions.
And at the same time, in way aligning the mind,
making it become how be do it it and used to
that full censation experienced with moment of my biner
An Charla Catherine said, made a following comment and discribing
the practice or suggelated to sizzation, we remain mindful,
open serving a suttle preceptions that might sterby feeding the hunger
for stimulation and sustaining the consider that I am.
But sing the danger in that force of craving the mind
must evengine lose its enchantment would context. And that training
for stimulation was see is. And then the mindful observation
continues of serving the fating away of craving,
observing the ending of constructions activities,
reparation formations,
that by
fan by craving
Observing the sessation of any reaching towards,
mind or matter as for the for becoming.
Graving ends, consumption ends, becoming ends. So yes
. A mind that is not down to both the stimulation
of mental sensory phänomenal, one otherself, it's also sensation.
What else more did optive? Show that now I.
We are ready for a serminumber
Geht dann, sind dann ich dann, bin ich dann,
ja, die dann, sagen wir so einen Kader,
samatom, samatom, bodyness, sagen wir,
dann hacken Kayomir da, da nebenbei dann.
Und das heißt Space wollen, das ist excellent,
name investilling of wald reparations, there willing bushment of wald
assets and the distruction of graving did touchment, sessation extinction.
Mit der per mission of the most finable great preceptor in
the asammly of the venible meditative mons.
This is the 18th Sermon in the series of Sermons on
in Banan
Wir üben die Menschen in our last summon that many of the discurs,
as dealing with the subject of Nibana, have been missinterbetted.
Du tust ein lack of uprisation of the fact.
Aprisciation of the fact, that the tran sendence of the world,
and crossing all where to the far the short existence,
have to be understood in a psychological sense.
The view and that the other hand at the end of
his life and this into an absolutely existing as suncatendato,
humply bed element,
seems take received acceptance in the commentarial
In der Kurs of Alas Summon we made it very clear that some of the discourses,
cited, why the commentators, in support of that view,
neil on the countery, with some kind of realization,
the othern goes to look here and now.
In this very life, in this very world.
A realization of that sessation of existence, on the sessation
of the things since face. Even menda wunder,
refurged to the other hand, as them rahming,
who having gone beyond this standing on the father sure, you
was speaking of the other hand, who was realized in
this very life. The infrax free in the livrence of
the mind and deliverance to wiston in this concentration of the
food of other hand
There from on the strength of next evidence.
We are compared to a lissit, a suttler maining of
the concept of liss sure and the father sure.
From this discourse is dealing was nipen bahner, then is generally
accepted in the world. Our someone today's especially indressed to
that end. As we mentioned before, if one is kinon,
getting a solution to the problems relating to nibahner,
the discourse is we are now taking up for discussion,
might me we are in the deeper der mentions of that problem.
We had to wine up our last serman while and drowing
out in the emplications of the last line in the paramarkt
takersuite of the sutaniparata.
Parangato,
na paniciditatadi
May do the inference that the step first one and the
other hund who is such might.
Once cong to the far the shower and this not come bank.
We find how ever quite a different idea express inniverse of the narrical suttanipat.
The verse which was the subject of much controversy,
only angients, runs is follows.
Othen Java, Char, hi, Patipanda.
Somanene, Patkasita. Na, Parang, ligonangyanty, nydam,
he can guunang mutter. High and low out the parks,
made nown by the back clues
They go not toush to the far the show,
no yet, is it to be reconned and going once?
Coming, translation by big a money.
High end low is the practice talk by lear setting.
They don't it go into ways to the far show.
Yet, it is not experienced in a cingle way.
End of comment. The last to lance a seem two continue things other.
There's no going twice to the far the show.
But still it is not to be conseeved as a going once.
Now, as for the first two lines,
the high and low parts,
we for to the monds of practice adopted
According to be greats of understanding in different card the types.
For instance, in the highest straight of persons,
I tends need banna by any easy part, being quick with it.
Sucker, party banna, keep Barbinia. We are as
the lowst rate, the tends it by and difficult part.
Being relativ lead and down with it. Dokka, party banna,
dandabinia. The problem lies in the last to lines.
The commentare tries to tackle late by interpreting the reference,
to not going twice to the founder show,
not paran, migunanianti, as an association,
that there's not a possibility of a taining in Barnam,
but the same part twice.
Ilka Maggengena, entwickeln Karton, neben Barnam,
naja und die
And the implication is, then the Supermund impart of a
streaminner or once returner or nonnor returner arrises only once.
Why it is not to be consived as in going ones,
is explained as an acceptance of the norm,
that we quires not last than for supermanent part to a tain around hold.
Our web. And deeper analysis of the oversing question,
what mulmial in the fact, that it effectively
brings up and apparent contradiction.
The commentary cidetracks, by resorting it into two in different problems.
The do lines simply reflect do arespects of the
same problem
They go not twice to the Farbershow and this is not going twice,
nine down is however not to me that off,
as and going one's one.
In the commentary as side drags by taking edown,
this to mean in the Farbershow, Partner.
Versit complehents, the whole idea of not going twice.
On you then is the Paradox complete. In other words,
this verse concerns the such like one, the other hand.
And not a stream minute, in the one's rejournal or the non-Returnal.
Here we have an echo of the 1D allly express,
as the grandfinal of the Badamard Bekasutta
Paragartona paci ditardi. The such like one,
gone to the father sure, comes not make.
The this the last line how I'm a net remains of puzzle.
Why is this not gwen twice,
not to be thought of as a going ones?
There must be something deep behind this ringle. Now,
for instance, when one says, I've alone goal that wise,
it mains that he will go only wants.
On one says, I want to tell twice.
It for low statty will tell only ones. But he
we are told that the other one goes not twice,
and yet to this not the
way ones
Nee, I neear behind this riddle is than the infrax
free other hunt and their search like one.
On gone to the fahrradshow, which is supprominent,
does not comeback to the monday. Never the less,
here Bernly, comes back to the world and it seen
to experience likes and dislikes, pleasures and pains.
Two the objects of the five sensors.
From the point of view of the worlding,
the Island has comeback to the world.
This is the crucks of the problem. Why is it
it not to be consived of as and going ones?
Because the other hunt has the ability in to the touch
and self from the world,
from time to time and real tain
to that other other part of Samani
Es ist drum, dass er too experiences die Objects of
the Five external sensus. But now in then,
he brings is mind to duell in that other other,
pala samani, which is like standing on the founder shower.
He and then, we have an experience cycle problem.
In the other hunt comes back to the world and his scene experiencing,
the Objects of the Five sensus. On mind of course,
conclude, the head he is actually in the world.
This problematic situation, name in the question,
how the infraxly other hunt, and going to the founder shore,
comes make and takes in Objects too the sensors.
The bundar resorts with the help up his simple similary drown
from Nation
For instance, we read in the jet assuit of this
suite any partner and the following, singilating alliance.
Oder wenn du ja Tabi-Bockenkarry, Padome, wariger Tanna littpatty,
Ehemann Moninopalipatty, Yadidan, Ditta, Sotan Motesua.
Like a drop of water on on lotus leave,
All water that tance not the lotus pattle.
So the sage on attached remains in a ringuard
to what is seen hurt and since.
Coming translation by me combody. Just as award a drop,
does not stic do a lotus leave
Oh, what do do the lotus flower? So the money does
not clink to anything, I'm in the seen her those sense.
So the extremely deep problem conscerning the relation with we in
the Supermondaine and the monday in love its of experience,
is resolved by the bunda by bringing in the similary of
the lotus pattle and the lotus leave.
Let us take up another instance from the markanesuptor of the Suptanipather.
Yeah, he me me vitor, vitcerrea looke,
na tani, ogangeia, vaday you nago.
Elang muchang, cang, takang,
vaday yom yattal.
Galena congene,
a nupalictal
Eva Mooney, Santivado, Agidanto, Calmity,
low cat your anober lictor. The touch from whatever views,
the other hand wonders in the world.
He would not converse, taking his stand on men.
Ebene as the white lotus, sprang up in the water.
Yet remains on as me at by what end month.
So is the sage, profession peace and free from Green.
And sme at by pleasures of sense and things at the world.
Coming translation my mecamorally. Meny wonders detouched from things in
the world, the naga, would not class
band a senden
Also, Tonys tockt Lotus und one in the word one
, is untainted by water and month. Yes,
so the mooney, a proponent of peace, free of ree,
is untended by sential pleasures and the world, end of common.
Am on the tens of we angood that in Ikaya,
me come across and discourse, in wish the bunde answers question,
but by the venomen bar hundert.
At the time, the bunde was doing,
you depon ganga that in the city of jump on.
My not bar hunderts question mores, catine nuku,
band in the media target or nisator,
visanited to vepper motor,
we marial diga
tenergy to saw viharaté
Die tätscht düsyngaged and released from homany things,
nust that targeted that well with an almost like that mind. Der Bundeseins tut die question in Bodhisus Simmely,
uply taking from the point is ituary.
Und das sei ein paar hundert Meter meter Tage Tor,
Innisator, Visanyotto, Vipamutto, wie Mariadicathene, Jettas,
wie hat er die Kathamäne in Assayen?
Rubäna Kornbarhühner, der Targeto, Nissator, Visanyotto, Vipamutto,
wie Mariadicathene, Jetta, Sabiharité. Wieder nahe Sanyay,
San Kari, Vinyane, Jadia, Jaray, Nähne,
Nuppengeh, Giliseko und Warhunger, der Targator Nissator, wie Sangyatto,
wird ein paar Motoren, wie Marianika, die NHHTSA, wie hat er die?
Sehr ertarb im paar hundert Opa Langma,
Parmong war Bullarie gegangen, war, oder Kinja, dann,
oder gehst du dann wandern, oder gar Attiu Gamma,
tickte die Anobalitta oder Gene, immer mehr war Co,
war hunderte Targato im Main in der Seidenharmännis, wie Sangyatto,
Mempermotor, wie mache ich Annika Teneje, das sah wie Haradin,
die touched in this engaged and released from 10 things,
ein paar hundert,
nasste to targeted well with the mind unrestricted
Which then. They touched disengage and release from from bar
hundertaste the target at the world with the mind unrestricted.
They touched in disengage and release from feeling,
from perceptions, from preparations, from concessors.
From birl, from the cay, from debt,
from bains, from definance bar hunder,
das dritte Target-Duell with the mind and listict.
Justice Barrener, Blue-Loaders, Red Loaders, so row White Loaders,
bone the what the crown-up in the watter.
Ryan is well above the watter.
And we mains unsme
and my watter
Even so ein paar Hunde. Das nette Tag der Duell,
die touched, disigngaged and released from these ten things with the mind on restricted.
Coming Translation by Microbody. Marna, enis Microsoft that the target is released,
dede touched and demand, sie betet vom Ten things,
that in Duells with the mind, free from
Boundomies, whaten? It is, me cause that the
target is released, de touched and emancibated from Fonds,
net in World's with the mindfree from Boundaries.
It is because that the target is released,
de touched and emancibated from feeling
Polnischen Aktivities, Consciousins, that it worlds that the mind free from boundaries.
In this, because that the target is release,
details and emancipated from Berg, or tage, that suffering the finance.
That it worlds with the mind free from boundaries.
Justice a blue rando, right load is glown.
The one in the water and grown up in the water.
Rise is up above in the water, instance,
unsoiled, by the watter. Ebenso above honor,
it is because the cost that the target is released,
detouched and emancipated from these tene things,
that it worlds with the mind free from boundaries
Nest-Diskurs-Sympathicual Highlights, die transcendance of it to target town.
Do you seems to take in worldly objects to the sensors?
Ihm the release from de5 ignorates is a firmed.
We might wonder wine that to target at a said to be free from
their decaying to sensors we know hidded growth and buzzer way.
Berth DK and that in this context do not referred to some future state Island.
Here now, that tight ago that is free,
from the concepts of morth decayente.
In the commerce of our discussion of the term propension,
we had do casion to illustrate how one can be free
from such concepts
If concepts of merked,
decay and that and give a fear into the minds of worldings,
such is not the case with at the target.
He's free from such fears and four bowlings, he's free
from definance as well. The discourse, sims to for firm,
that that that that target to do or its detaged from
all these and things. It's seems there for,
that the functioning of that to target as sense faculties,
in his evideo life, also should follow a certain exterordinary,
pattern of detagement and that his engagement.
Infector, wenn du bei Sunny put to says exampsing,
something to there effect, in this alive,
than as some you to
an youtanica
Barcettieben, Bagger war ein Chakuna Europa.
Canderago, laravatunatee, so we mut digito, pagawa.
Und sie excited one seas fornes with the eye,
but there is no designed or attachment in him.
Well, freedy nine is need exalted one.
Common translation by McCampony. And then blessed it one seas
of form with the eye, yet, there is
no deesigned last interest one. Tablessed one is well liberated and
the nine. And some you to alcome our paranoid.
And then blessed one seas with the eyes phones,
need a beautiful ugly, without giving nice to designed last
Herrn Duft kommend. Nee,
come across similar statement make by them rahmen years utra,
in them brach my years of to of the money manicayer.
After heard, closed you followed in the bulldom for a
consider of reperiod, to verify and the good report office extor
on in my qualities. A rass about its an
wenig co-banasum havango tamo aharen ahari de, no rassurage,
but its and maybe, experiencing taste, master voltomatexas food,
but not experiencing any attachment to the test.
Common Translation by Janamoli
He text is for experiencing the taste, don't not experience thinking
read for the taste. And the mineama argument perlent,
when he ding he concerns to the experience,
in to experience in the taste,
but he doesn't not concent to being defined by the taste.
I have this gastes and other aspects of the buddhist delicons, takt in chapter,
in my rison book on the medity this life of the buddha.
And I will offer this chapter to participans in the curse, justing case,
you are interested in some additional reading on this whole as aspect of how
An der Bunter and By Implication also ein arer Hunt-Kontakts-Emself for hurself in daily life,
he's can be very inspiring, taking things down tom,
very pragmatic and practical level.
End of comment. It is indied something marvelous. In
the Implication is that there as Sancho degree of detection,
with regard to things experience by the tong,
even when the sense of taking in their omnex.
One can understand in the difference,
between the monday and the Superman day,
when one beflects on the difference,
between experiencing taste and experiencing and attachment to taste
Not only, with we going to to the objects of
the five sensors, but even with regard to mind objects.
And then mind sepated one has a certain degree of detachment.
The allahand this realized that they are not such,
it takes in concepts, aniven speaks in terms of iron mind,
but now is that they are folds concept.
Er is in the case of a Charles Language. Kommen,
yeah, I just want to to clarify that with the expression false concepts,
there is not any intention to say that are once
how not speaking the truth
And I intentional saying, something that is falls.
They all, I think, the point is only that
they are aware of the missleading nature of concepts,
if they are take an as something substanture.
But Alien concepts are such are not in the problem.
The problem is only the missleading connotations, they can have.
And so it is in this sense, that help falls.
And of comment. There's a discore someone the 9s of
young Gothan Icayan, which sings to sure this fact
And is a discourse preached by menoma sunny put to refugee the wrong view point,
take and by monk named a channica put up.
Evang sama ma vimute chicken does up core, vous a vicuna boussage beach,
up covinia yeah, Europa, chacuza arbeiten, argat channy.
Never citan pariani and the gamissica tame, vas cerci tang hodi,
tang ran in yapen backdown. Ryan Jassan obastardy,
voussage episoda viniae sanda, voussage yeping, honna viniae sanda,
voussage yeping, yeah, voussage yeping, dass die Menschen,
die ihre Ventile und ihre Ventile und ihre Ventile und ihre Ventile und ihre Ventile und ihre Ventile und ihre Ventile.
Friend in the case of a Monk, who is fully released.
Even if many forms, cognized with my my,
come it in the venge of business,
then do not over one is mind, is mind remains analyined,
is stanny and on no, is is its passing way.
Even if many sounds cogn, also by the year,
come it in the venge of hereing
Even if many smells, copen is also by the knows,
you've many tastes, cognizely by the time,
even if many tangibles, cognizely by the body,
even if many mind objects, cognizable by the mind,
cognit in the range of the mind,
they do not over on is mind,
is mind remains unalyined, steady and unmore,
he sees it's passing wait.
Coming translation by microbody, when friend,
because that's perfectly in the berated in mind, even
if powerful form scognizer by the i coming to,
range of the i,
they do not obsess is mind,
is mind is not the
doll effected
Interement steady, a tain to importable bility, hey,
operserves, it's vanishing. Even if powerful sounds cooken,
also by the year, coming to the vange of the year,
he've nicht powerful odos, cooken us, but by the knows,
coming to the vange of the knows, even
if powerful tastes, cognizely by the tong,
coming to ranger of the tong, even if powerful,
a touch tile or objects, cognizely by the bonny,
coming to vange of the bonny, even
if powerful phänomenal cognizely by the mind, coming to range
of the mind, they do not obsess is mind,
is mind is not a doll effected.
Edwemine Stanny, dance to imput to mobility and he
or besource,
it's vanishing
End of Connect. So he me have the eindealen
of the emancy bated mind. Generally a person unfamilien but the
nature of a lot of sleeve or look as better.
On seeing a dope of watch on lot of sleeve
or locus pattle would think that the watch and drops meers then.
Early we happened to mention, that there's a white gap
in between the monday and the Superman in.
So my think that with we first to agap in time or in space.
Infected this such a conception that often led to various miss
interpretations consuming nebenbahnen
The Supermonday seems so far away from the monday.
So it must be something attinable after to death and point of time.
Our earns it to be far far far away in out of space.
Such is the impression main in engenona. But if we go,
by the similary of the dop of water on the lotusly,
the distance between the monday and the Supermonday is the same us
that between the lotusly and the dop of water on it.
Coming your I find this image particularly powerful.
Außer Essen als Inspiration for actual practice and one Aining at
the realization of hiban as something very eminute and not.
Far far away in time and out of space.
In of comment. We are still on the problem of
the hither sure and the father sure.
And the destinction with me in the monday and the Supermunday in
Brings and to the question of this sure and the other sure.
The other hands conception of this sure and the other sure
difference from that of the worlding in General
You for instance and native of this Island,
goes a brown and settlest down there,
he made even think of a return to this country as engly am brown.
Similarly, as far as the emanzipated sages concern, if
he having gone to the far as show and does not come back.
One might expecting to think of this world as the far as show.
But it seems the ada hand hess no such distinction.
As certain that humber badaverse, a loose to the fact,
that he has transcened this tycotomy. Yes,
a barung, a barung war, padada, padadam,
winje, die vittern, ran, visangiert done,
tama hambloni,
blau,
mal lang
Das ist so was, we have quarted valuate two,
in connection with the question of the enverband economy.
Ja, so ein paar, ein paar, ein paar,
dann in der Wind, die doom this nine the farmer sure,
no hill be sure nobody.
That is to say, he has known this connection,
it we met doom. Vitaten the rang,
we same you than tamaching, womit darf man,
with free from Pengs of Sorry and entanglements,
him I call a browning.
Coming translation by care nowman. For home this nine of
the Fahrsure,
nogginier sure nobody
Free from distress and without connections him my call in down and of comment.
This means that the other hand is free from the
verbal dekonomie, which is of relevants to the worlding.
Once combioned, the emancipated one has no more user those concepts.
This is wonder bundes nicktum in the rat similarly auf
der lager no bombersuite, becomes minimful. Eben,
the concepts of a this show and the funnel show
are useful only for the purpose of crossing over.
You for instance, we othern,
having gong the yond, where do think,
ah,
this is my land
Thank you, some sort of a glasping.
Then they will be an identification, tom my other,
non identification. Adam meta. As we have mentioned early
and there's a strange quality gold, are tom may town?
As sociated with the other hand. In connection with a similar for man,
who picture begin, we are voll restated,
in the ordinary norm that privers in the world.
If we possess something, we are possess by it.
If we fast something, we are quarter it.
Coming again a find his
And bass to think way of reflecting on the tendreals of
attachment and of commit. Actually continue the comment I'm gonna
read it one more time and of comment.
If we poses something, we are possess maject.
If we grass something, we are court by it.
This is the morrow behind the parable of the Jam.
It is this conviction, which prompts the other hand not
to drask, even the father show.
Do his stand there
This show in the undershow are concepts.
We have a practical value to those was done designed.
As it is stated in the allagat nobomasup that.
Since there is no bond ompage to cross only.
One has to improvise a raft by Putin together, grass,
twix, branches and lames, found on this show.
But after crossing all with this help,
he does not carry it with him on his show than.
You are may ever core, may ever we could looper moo,
maya, dammore, desi to nittar naturna thail, no organat thail.
Koloper moon more beten that we agan and tay,
no may bibu bahard,
that pagava andamma
Ebenso, morgens have a bridge to you and home
on that is comparable to a bar.
Which is for crossing over and not for crossing. Well,
I know in the number to be comparable to around,
you should a band the neben the good things,
more also the bed things.
Coming transmation by Indiana Molly. So I've shown you how
the number is simulator bar, being for the purpose of
crossing over, not for the purpose of crossing.
Mecause, when you know that down my to missimilator about,
you should about and then eben the teachings,
how much more so things,
quanturing to the teachings and of coming
Oh, my think that the other hand is in the sensors round,
when for instance, you partics of hone,
but that is not so.
Do we are tains to the rams of
formen formers round, in those not be long there?
Yeah, they ability to etain to those lovels of concentration,
but you does not crastly egoistically.
To to that norm of a tamayata or nona identification.
Wir sind jedes Something extra ordinary. Views and opinions
about language, dog matically entertained by the world längs lose
their attraction for him
This fact is crearly illustrated for us, by the Urlaubersutter auf der Suttanipathan.
Bei Significans of horching me have already stress.
We happened to mention that there's a refrain,
running through all the 7th vs. making up that discourse.
There refrain concerns of the one out scan over smake.
The last to lines in it words, funding that we
frain our, so making go in Jahadi europaran,
uda go, jinna me by taccian Buddhaana.
That monk for sakes the heard the end of tinder,
even as the snake,
it's skin that to twitter
Comment Transation bei Biggle Boni. Und dann biggoon gives up
the hear and the beyond, as a certain chance,
it's old monoth skin, pend of come.
Und der Turmurlaub-Baron ist heilig significant in this Kontext.
Horang mins this show and barang is the funnel show.
The monk it seem skills up not only this show,
matty other show was well, even as the snake,
slows of it's one not skin.
That's can has serviced purpose, but now it is renundant.
So it is laud of. Let us no take
up one moverse from the uriga sutter, which has no
seen refrain, because of it's velopment is to the understanding
of the
turmpa bunger
The transcendence of relativity in what's freedom from the
duality in volly concepts, such as good and e-mail.
The concept of a for that shown,
stands are relatived on the concept of a himmel show.
The point of this discurses is to indicate,
that there's a freedom from worldly concepts of prolifations,
based on duality and relativity.
The voice me proposed to bring up his,
you're night chassadie, now, but chassadie,
someone that chang the main on papan chang.
So, we can concern your heart to our baran,
we're going to jinner mever that chang purana
We know in the overweek is himself no likes behind.
And has gone beyond all this poliforation, that morgen for
sakes behind and it a ebene as the snake it slaw that does witner.
Comment, Translation by Nicomoni. One hess night that brand to
fine or run back. West transcended one this proliferation,
then because gives up the here and the beyond as a certain shines,
it's old one out skin.
This vs. particularly significant, in der it brings all
some points of interest
The overreaching and legging behind is an alusion to them urban deekonomy.
In the kontext of views for instance, any
lation ism is an overreaching and eternalism is a legging behind.
Me may give and other illustration, easy to an distant.
Speculation about the future is an overreaching and rependence with
the past is a legging behind. Two transcend,
more these tendencies is to get be on proliferation.
Somebong, I'm Jacka may emang, Papanjan.
When a bank note is invalidated, dravings conseas and views
and bound but it go down
Concepts girl in the world,
like Bank notes in Transaction, are reacted asmabilite,
so long as bravings constits and used one what they maybe.
They are null on a vellate when these are gone.
We have defined popunch you with reference to cravings constits and views.
Kommentare is also speak of Tanna Papanja, Ditti Papanja and
Mana Papanja. By doing a way with creevings,
constits and views, one goes beyond all, Papanja.
The term order Pardon, do has many connotations.
It's dance for the enduality, implicit in 20 usages,
as the internal and the external one zone
and the numbers
As well as this your in the founder short.
It is compared here to the own outs can over snake.
At is one out by transcending in the Duality, charactery stick
of link whistic usage through mystem. Why in the
bounder first heasy data to dig this time more,
was in the difficulty of making the world on this than.
By helps it boys the condition, that the warld could easily
be misslight, by those limitations in the länguistic menium.
Be make this few observations and want to draw attention to the relativity
and the lying such down as as the this your and the other short.
And the show hony my mine at transcense eben that dekotomy
In this connection, we made take up vollkommen,
a highly controbutions that in the ittibutecard.
Which deals with a two aspects of nebenbahner,
known as saurbary sesa, nebenbahnendator, in allem Bartysaser,
im Bahnen-Datum. People poste to qualt the intire sutter,
so I as to give a full a treatment to this subject.
Would thank he don't bang about that would thank adadada to me to
vehema, hecker we, nippenbahnendatator do young, Catamindui.
So bodys is, sah nebenbahnendatatum, anobadis,
is sah than nebenbahnendatum. Gotham Marben, heckenka wehr,
sauber, ich sehe es an nebenbahnendatum
Inne, im Hängengamé, Megan Go Adam rote Kina.
Muss ich da mal rattern, rattern, rattern, rattern,
rattern, rattern, rattern, rattern, rattern, rattern.
Yes, in a viengatat, da, mana,
pamana, pacciano Bondi. Pacciano Bolti. Sukardukka, Barti
Sang Venetatin. Tassa joda, ka jo, ka jo,
ka, jo, I en, Butcherdi, maker.
WSS, but it says, I nebenbahnen tatum.
Katamaja, Beckery, Anobali, see San,
nebenbahnen tatum
Ida, HKW, Makingco, Adam, Hall de China,
also Musiker war Katakaramie, und es war nicht möglich,
sie zu beginnen, sie zu beginnen, sie zu beginnen.
Die Idee war, sag mal wieder Idani,
Anna bin Annitani, sie zieht die Barrisan, die Ayanbutscher,
die Mäkw-Annobali, sie ist Sani, Mann und Hardon.
Wie der Marthang Barrava Avolcian, that de Dani de Bucciati,
do rema chakuma taba casita, nimm Barn und da,
du Anissitene, Danina, LKH, da,
du eh, da ditten, dan,
egal.
So body see, Sam,
aber nennen die Sankaja
Hallo, Body Seesa, Pala Samparaika, Jan Hini,
Rüdmschan, die Barvani, Sambason. Jeder dann,
ja, ja, Balan, Sanka, dann,
wie Mutter, chieten da, aber nennen die Sankaya.
Die Tamasara, radiger Mark-Karriere, dann, Bahanso,
die Samba, van Italino.
Ayan, Beanto, voter, Bargavada, itime suttan.
Und es muss sein, bei The Exalted One,
send by the volty one, so have a hurn.
Morgens, there are these two neben Barnaelmens,
which two thiny by the elements with Resident Workling and
the indebane element without Resident Workling
And one morgens is then evan emind with the brisit workling. You really morgens,
I'm morgens in other hand, with in Fraxis existent,
one rights let the only life to the full.
Dann what is to be done, lay don't the burden,
reached one scroll, fully discoin,
the fettes of existence and released with full on a standing.
His five sense, back out this till remain and in
you do the thank that they are not discnow it,
he experience is likes and this likes and pleasures and pains.
That exturopation of lost handing lusion in here,
that morgens is known as no nembarne element with masitable klingen.
And what morgens is the nibane element modauer to basitable klinging
You will morgens are morgens and other hand, what in Fraxis existent.
One is let the holy life to the full.
Don't more this to be done, late on the murning.
Reached once goal, fully in is now interfetties of existence.
And released but full understanding. In him he would self, all what is
faird will cool off, not being delight at them.
This morgens is then epane element, where doubt visit look linking.
The this effekt, the exalted once spook.
And this is ligist, hand it down is not sense.
There is to nebenbane elements, happen made nown,
by the one mith vision,
unnettached and that such
Of relements to the heard now is one element with resident
will cleaning yet mit tentegods to becoming a snaped.
But then that element will doubt resident will cleaning is
of elements to the hear after.
For in it, so see is all forms of becoming.
They and that company and fully and this state of the unpreprepared.
We listed in mind with tentegods to becoming a snaped.
On winning to the assence of the number that take the
light and seeing to an enter beton.
So give up, they all forms of becoming a step
fast is that steig
as naeal
Commentare Translation by Ireland. This was that my the lawrence
. Because they all this two one neben Banner earnings,
one other doing, then the nimbana element with resident you left.
And then eminder ment with no resident left.
What a makers is the any banner element with resident left
. Here a because in Ahan, one who stains
or distroyed and the ally life for full filled,
wo es dann, what had to be done,
lay don't the burden, a tain to goal,
distroyed the fettes of being and is completely released to one final knowledge.
How ever, his five senseback others remain unimpinred?
But which is still experiences, what is a greeable
and dissumeable and fits pleasure
and pain
Eddie ist in der Extinction of Attachment, paid and division in him,
then is call than you mana element with masitual left.
Now what Veccos is then you banna element with no reside you left.
Here because in other hand, one who's tains or distroying,
in the whole life for fürth,
wo es dann what had to be done,
lay don't the burdon, a tained to goal,
the stroined of a fetters of being and is company released through final knowledge.
For him here in this away life, all the
this experience, not being delited in will be extinuished.
That because is call then evine element with no one resident in left.
This micos abit to any burn elements
Dehst du in die Biden-Elements,
wo wir made known by the seaing one, Serenen unattacked.
One is the element seen here and now,
with residium, but with the card of being discribed.
The under having no residium for the future, is that
were in all modes of being at that be season.
Having understand the unconditions state. Released in mind, with the
card of being distrying. They have a tained in the
undermare essents. The lighting in the distraction of grady,
those seren ones have a bundant all being end
of common
Und der Standard Frace, soming up the qualification of an other hand,
or course inful, in the definition of the saul party
saison, nimm mal einen natur. There indesting the feature
of this in ebina element, this board art in the
statement that in the other hands, five sense faculties are still entect.
Or in to which you experiences likes and this like,
and pleasure in pain, hoible,
to the extent that last tate in delusion likes ninkin,
extinctinent,
it is gold and there in ebina element
with residentiment klingen
In the Indefinition of any banner element without resue do clinging.
The same stone of frace recurs. While it's distinctive feature
is something just one sentence. That say in emer,
same ba medaitani, anna ba medaitani, seht lieber Missanti.
In him, heardself, all what is fair it
will cool off, not being the light it in.
It maybe noted that the verb is in the future thance.
Enterpart from this schooling off, there is no garanty
of a world beyond. As and I think it that
do or unprepared element,
with no sun
mono starsinet
Eine Thomas is that follown, purpured to give a summary of the process persage.
Yeah, this clearly stated that outople to nebenbahn elements,
as the are called, the former pretents to the here
and now and didn't done me car.
When the lettery first to what comes after that sumbray can.
The nebenbahn element with Resident Will Clinging, so oupa disay,
sah nebenbahn and hard to has as,
it's redeeming feature and the assuerance, that didn't tacular craving for becoming is cutter.
The spideds esposure to likes and dislikes,
pleasures and pains, coming to a field of the
5 sensors
Er ist for the nibana element, with how drasity work clean,
it is definitely stated that in it all from so existence come to sees.
The reason for it is non other than the crucial fact,
stated in that single sentence,
name in the coulding of all body's fair,
there's an inavidiable consequence of not being the lited in.
And labin and itani. Why do they not take the light
in what is feld at the moment of passing a way?
They take the light in something else and that is in
the very indistruction of all what is feld.
Of or this of which they have all experienced in
the entainment to that unshak up in the livings of the
mind. Which is the very pith and essence of the domma
As stated in the mahasa, oh, myself, the money carry.
The pist of the thamma is that deliverance of the mind.
And to take the light in the ending of all feelings,
carriere that, is to rebird to the Arata Palacemani,
with mitch and the Arandis already familian.
That is how those such like once,
a vendanal fonds of existence, behang to the same babaran
Italiener. There is no try to saw down the problems,
that I like it to be ways in connection with the interpretation,
we have given.
First and formers, the two thans dit the dammica in
Samparai, I have the be explained
A lot of confusion has a rison.
A do to a miss on the standing of the meaning
of these two downs in this podicular context.
The usual commentary exageses on the term dynamic amounts to this.
I mass mine at the bar, we may vate mine
in this way, life that is in the present.
It seems on right. But then for Sambaraica,
the commentary has no voll in common.
Sambaraihe, Canda, Merator, Paramhagen.
Sambaraihe, means out for the baking up the aggregats.
The Imdication is that it be first to the arrange
up to the at state
Are been then to conclude, that I don't gets half
of his nemana here and the other half year after?
The terms and did then dummega and samparaike. Anders tut in
the ordinary sense, would point to such your conclusion.
But let us not forget. And that the most indestinctive
quality of this dumma is associated with the highly significant
face in did the vadame in this very life.
Edisoce convade, might in expression sanditica carlican.
He rent now and timeless. And the goal of indever
indicated by this dumm and is one that could be fully
be alize you and now in this very life.
It is not epis me a feel
Granting all back, do we find here something continued with
convaint by the two terms and dynamics and somebody can,
we concilent these tour pessages.
In the context of come more, in the maining of the
two terms in question can easily be and a stud.
For instance, that kategorie of come money is like that,
how many in a nähe, we first to goes actions,
which produce their results here and now.
Somebody, can put tains to what comes after that,
as for instance in the frames, somebody,
to dokucality and evil born after that
In the Kontext of come my this cleaner then,
that the do downs, referred to one is experienced in
this world and what comes after debt, misspectively.
Are we justified in applying the same criterialien,
when it comes to the soccered to elements of nebbahnen?
Nur die Arahan's Experience some board of nibana here and the west here after.
At this point, we have to would made that the
German dipdynamic is associated with saupanicies and it mahlent attune.
Wild the Germ, some paraic, I stay can robot
to before do an bali says a limbahnen attune.
Here and the fact that nibanes explicited in defined else
where ask the association of existence. A bavanirodo nebenbahnen,
must not be forgotten
If nibana is the sizisation of existence,
there's notting left for the other and to experience here after.
Kommen hier der Translation auf dem Bavanir Rodo,
as this assation of existence, is not the only boysable translation in fact.
In way it might even be briffurble to translate it as
the sizisation of becoming. This is particularly evident with doms like,
wunderbar, in pornobaviga, which mean, rebecoming,
becoming again, but they cannot mean reexistence or existence again
Sense Even in der Intergrund, between One-Life and
the nother and there is some fonds of existence.
And I think our becoming also works better with the early
buddhist understanding of in permanence in a way existence is so
much to a static concept and this easily brown to reification.
Infactual little for the on the van van yonna himself says craving is apply quite
mavanetty in the sense that it leads to be coming.
So I think in the argument Ist der Stan is not
night nimana, nousn't referred with some form of absolut existence.
But expression bobbon you do,
is probably at least the alternative translation of scissation of becoming,
needs to be captain mind in everlativing at significance for discussions like the present one.
End of comment. Neben Barney is soly the realization of this
scission of existence or the end of the process of becoming
So, der ist absolut in our question of a here
after for the arent. By way of clirification,
we have to we are vird to the primary sense of
the Germany Bunnon. We have made it sufficienticlear,
that nemanaments existingtion, or extinguishment as of a fire.
All the Kommentare Jargon equating vana to ton hug,
is otherly are relevant. If the idea of an extinguishment
of a firest broading, the hold problem is solved.
Think of a blazing file, if no more firewood is
edit to it in the flames would subside and the end
was would going small ring before journing into actions.
This is then on
Nein, das ist nur der Analogy,
we are super impulsing on the done.
It is unan echo of a canonica similary,
pick up from the naga, so that we amgotta ranicaian.
The relevant verse, we are quarting a request in the United agada is well.
Margini, but ninjaliton, anna harrobas summertee.
Angari, successante, so nimm odo dipapuccity.
Also humans blazing fire with no more of firewall edit,
goes down to beach, you state of come.
Amber smallting as the are goodbye recon,
so long as they last as so most extinguist.
Kommentiers translation by big
and body
A great fire, all a blaze, selts down, man deprived of fewen.
And been all the calls have connown, it is side
the beasting wish. And in his no tee comments,
in place of suncarys, who casanti so in parasie,
the reading erfored the editions,
I read here with the pay of bermise manuscripts,
before to in a note in the pedia edition as Angares,
such a santis.
Yeah, this is also the reading that eventually an einander
prefers, you will be coming soon to his discussion.
And I just wanted to follow this up a little fire.
So here is was so the early and pTS transition by here,
e also follows, Angares,
such a synthis
In Translates as as blazing file, was out through want
of fewer and man of assues say the fire's going not.
And the adaption of this reading or the immendation is imbased on the terraguardumbers,
maginipanialito, anna hard open somebody, Anga,
there is so interessant this, neben dem Motor,
the provocity, and can moment,
Translates this as a great blazing five, sechs thing,
which to made has no full.
And the month extinct assues is
gold quenged
And it was a wanted to mentioned that in Monyor William
is sunscadictionary for Ungarde, he guess Charkul,
I there heat it all not heat it.
And I believe vanible nian on at takes it in the sense that to cola still
hot. And this is why in his translation,
he speaks of embers smallering than then adds could to be
in reckon and hole most to exting with.
Heute in the other translators seem to take it in the
other sense of the Charkul or really being acting gone out
or even
just mehr ashes
Und hier ist der Maniama Armer Perrel,
it is just as a blazing fire,
we sees learning if not supplyed with fuel,
we thought fuel a firewundert continue, succioffiee is side to have sease.
End of comment. Do we opted to rando the verse
this way? There's a variant reading,
which good leads to a different interpretation.
As so oft than happens in the case of deep success,
hear to, the correct reading is not easily determined.
In state of the frace Ungardias, which is suntisue,
I tested is it is,
many editions go for the variant reading,
sunparty is,
who percentisue
If that beating is adoptered,
the voice would have to be been at this follows. As a
huge blazing fire with and the more firewood at it,
goes down to reach is state of come,
when sun colors come down, when is call textinguished.
It maybe point it down that this value and reading does not
accord with the imagery of the fire presented by the first two lines of the verse.
It is probably a scribes error, that as come down,
you to the rhythmic similarity, mit ween the two phrases,
Angary as who just sent issue
and sun cary as up a santism.
But winter we side and the scribe, is that happen
similar wing and rhythm good sometimes bring about a textual corruption.
Be that ask may, we have opted for the reading angary,
such a sent is, because it makes more sense.
Vom der Particular Kontext in which diverse of curse,
in seeing is that this image we of the five as a
we statement of the image of the lotus on smear by watern.
Doll the embers are those smalldering to dextent in the tyre know
longer hungring for more fune and I know in the matting flames,
they mean,
as well,
be a big cantas exting wish
We can draw a para me to in this statement and the
definition of cyber is says and you ban and how do or dequoted.
As a full fledged other him, his to experiences likes
and this likes and players and pains.
On to defect that his five sense-factor design intect. The
association made by the frace beginning with toss ever tic tanteva punch in riyani,
Jesus a vigatoda, is five senses to exist,
when to the non-distruction of it, rade, Apollon Jedicalay,
and brings about talimitations of the liebing other hunt.
It is reminiscent of those smoldering embers in the imagery of
the nagashutter
Oh, aber insofern ist Flames ein Prolasttate in der Dilusion eine quentionelle Geschichte.
Es kostet mich, so partisierte ich in meinen Haaren,
heben es in der Case of Those Small Ring Embles.
Graving is applicald movanettee in the sense that eletes to becoming,
by catching hold of more more fewer in the four opa downer.
Vened is on the control and are functioning of the sense
faculties do not in terre for that me bird.
Be Ihnen evitable vositive cleaning in the living are hunt, not
not presipitate are fresh existence. This years are cloud to
the understanding of the term one body says
Velemanu body in this dom is rather unbinguments. In
the Satibatana, so to for instance. It is used
used as the criteria and to this dinguish diana Garmi,
the non-returner from the other hunt.
In the Statement liegt never a dummy anya,
Satibao body, see, see an non-garmita.
I'm a voll convensing now, if I don't hope,
hier und now. All the state of nomed turn,
in the case of risity work klingen.
More penny comes to the distinction with mind saw party sees,
and and on oparty sees and nillemanu bady has to
be understood in a more ronical sense.
In a sociation with the body bad
in now
This body yester product of past comma, is the gast per Exzellenz.
Which is an organic combination goes on functioning even in the
area and anderen his last more and of life.
Wenn du mal seine Butter onstick klärt,
die die Nadel, die leider die Leiter den Leih.
Naminan, Damin, Marnan, Naminan, Namin, Jimitan.
So, die Amberscorns modeling under the become ashes.
It is, when the life spend ends,
that the embers, finally, turn to ashes.
The popular interpretation of the German body see sign in
meinem Datum, liebs room, for some
absolut hist conceptions of an ashanka don't datum.
Bumpelbird-Element, erst indestiny of the Arand
After his buddy nebenbeine, he's a post to end
that this particular and embarn and tatum.
But here in this discourse, it is explained in just one sendence.
Das hinnehme, wegen der Wehsammenbavidaitani, an navinanditani,
see di ma vis an die in der Case of Him, eines Diara-Anordnungs.
All what is feld, not having we indelited in milcool
of here, it's self.
And this schooling of, happens just before that,
with heartic nighting and others bunk of life
Mein Mara kamst du, glaube ich, und siehst, die Anna-Handlet's Go.
The ben of there, with but schmara teases,
his hubles victim and lösim into another existence,
becomes ineffective in the case of the anderen.
Er see has allly gone through the Supermondane experience of defferisness
in the Arato Palacemani, death loses, it's sting,
when at last it comes.
Then flugs feed the liberals of the mind and the inflexibly
deliverance to wiston, and able him to cool down,
well feelings, in a way that nothless modern.
So the other hand, let's go,
or this body,
experiencing unbrowsal detlebusiness
Er ist in der Case, auch wenn er einen Dumbber mal labut hat.
Er will Sometimes creemate his one body without living any ashes.
Outwardly, it might appear as an active self-innovation,
migine in dispent from. But this is not so.
Using his channing powers, his empree employees the internal firement,
to cremate the body has or in discarner.
This than is the Bundesextro-ordinary solution to the problem of
all coming there. As solution that completely outbits monot.
Thank you very much for your tension