Welcome. Das ist der You learning course on the nibana Shamans,
one to eleven, by emicro categorund the niana name.
In online course, also to buy the nimoment to
send that for bully starteds at the University of Hamburg.
In collaboration mit der Barrican for bully starteds in my success.
Intoday, we are on to Shaman number level.
By first a few things
Von The Last from discussion. Außerdem,
wenn man bei Robert Grosh our experience of nomen Europa is merlia hollow
reflection in a point and magic trick performt by vinyana,
which we keep trying to grass been vain.
And if we try to grass per image of the reflection,
how we doing to go fishing for one of the gustin groups,
to stay with this similar for reflection in a point
Und in der Woche haben wir bei Fred Martinson mit Bolt und Daddy
tried do contentblate namen Europa auf der Sitting and generatings and concentration.
Und was wondering but at this is behaps and inside practice.
Und ja, ich habe just one it to mention that
the question of contentblatting namen in Europa can be dann in
connection with consciousness,
ritty pocal
Relationship of mutual conditioning between the tong. And so it's
can pretty much be applied in any kind of situation,
by simply in distinguishing between more passive,
receptive presence of 9. and activities, mental aktivities,
name and experience of form of materiality.
So it does not so much require Getting into deep concentration,
being able to analyze each sink effector of name,
which is of course use on interesting practice.
But it can be simply done by this in any kind
of situation to ein job back for a moment,
into that passive receptive 9, that is there.
And from that view point of that process of coinsusness,
of being conscious of experience.
Then it is possible to see the unfolding of the drama
of the movie of experience
The way, we created in construct and dramatised things.
And that can be a very inside full practice and then we can,
it's indeed possible to experience, nach Europa, SMT,
as a magic trick, as a hollow reflection.
And to, we come a way of this worldpool between,
nach Europa and in consciousness.
And to immerge out of the dramas and more vis that
so easyly created.
And in other comment by Kim Ellen
You don't cost to me that seeing is a particularly
difficult seens to to penetrate with whiston.
Because many visible objects, look relatively permanent. In this
fair easier to consider sounds this conditional produced rising and partsing in perception.
I don't think of sounds to substantially existing.
In the same is a my for omgets. Yeah,
I thought this was a boy useful and helpful observation.
And I think this will your point of learning to See through visual objects,
to bring that understanding,
which we also have from modern physics of the basic in
substantiality of material objects being main up for the most projest of space.
And out of the mind constructing things, ex substantially exciting to being
that into into seeing as a very fast anotting challenge.
Andylen, the imagery of a donking dreading awagon pusht by
aversion to be goal that impult by craving for carrett
Selbst illustrierte Partikel von Organier remind. Pusht den Pult bei Definements,
ignorant of the fact it, name in form is something reflected on consciousness.
That provides a use for picture of the tangle with hing and the tangle without.
And Jeff Harley, has raw propensity to be like
and dongy in driven by a car that a stick.
It come stown to the basic biology hardwired into even the
primitive one sell unmöbel.
The organizm is etracted to what's Sugar Media and the way
from Saul
Bedauert Isles die Müllers. Es ist die Remains Sidentary,
die die ähnlichen Inpersöden der nächsten Similers haben.
This is such a fundamental aspect of holow my mindworks that
all practice throughly is like swooming against the stream.
Yeah, it is indeed. Swooming against the stream.
But naybe if we can playing a little bit with head carriots himily,
head could also me matter of taking a very
conscious decision of which direction we place
the carriot
In the sense that the minds in build,
tendency to go after pleasure,
can be used for progress on the part.
By placing the character of join happeness within the context of what is whole some.
And a lowing that I'm möber since are möble stage in build,
tendency of the mind to go after pleasure,
to lead in the dungarication of liberation
Intentional cultivation of rose and forms of join happeness is an
intract a part of the part.
From the rejoicing in even the elementary basics of ethical conduct
all the way to the joy of the weaking factors and
the deep happeness and places of opsuction attainment.
It's got. That was soll for the last fornged
discussion and now we intuition number eleven
Jedank, sondern ich dankbar nicht an ihr,
die dann sagten, dass ich ein Karre-Samatou.
Ich sage, oh, die Parteien, das ist ein guter.
Dann hat Kaio Virago, Niroldo, nicht Barna.
This is paceful, this is excellent namely.
The stilling of all preparations, there relimbleshment of all assass,
the distruction of graving, detectument, citization,
extinction,
with the permission of the
most vanible great precepter
And there are sembly of the beneral meditative monks.
This is the elevens sermon in the series of sermons on
the bonner. You know, a last sermon,
we tried to explain that contact erises dependent on name in form.
Because form, it's a verbly impression,
by the naming quality in at name gets the resistance impression,
by the striking quality inform.
In the context of this down more, contact,
properly so call, this a combination of this two
Nimm die Wurbel Impression and Resistance Impression.
Mir war so happen to mention in the other day.
And new at emological explanation given by the bunde,
for the world ruper. Colding the velopment Passage from the cutany issue
done of the cunda summited in the summit in Icary.
Hier ist die Feind in der Form Group mit Reference to Affectation.
Gruppe de come, hick carretas murrow, band devot to this.
It is effected months. That is wide is call form
Bye what disit effected, by cold, heat, angedöst.
And this thing of get flies, moskitos in the like.
While analysing the implications of this being effected. Be mentioned
that the formgroup, could be compared to a world.
According to the commentarial executes, to Europa,
the means to be adversely effected.
To be effected to come into conflict with,
to be deceased and in this please.
These are reminiscent of the responsors, usually assouls,
you did mit the burson,
where is and easy last one
To say and that the particular some pass horizons, because
of this electric republic quality is their fund very apped.
The primary sense of the word party gone is striking against.
Perception of form vices as a result of an attent to understand through the factors,
unternehmens side, and this particular striking against.
Which resembles the laseration of a world. This perception of form,
which follows in the wake of the feeling,
that the vices, when somethings strikes, against form,
is like the grouping of a plind
man in the dank
Generally. The workling is in the habit of starring at
the form, that comes with an is grass.
To ask it's true nation, like wise, he touchest
of form, he sees with his eyes to verified.
As the same gross, seeing is believing,
but touche is the real thing.
But both this attents, are like the groupings of a blindman?
Doorling is one able to get wind of his the logischen completely,
by I thought this methods.
It is, because he's a custom to draw conclusions,
on the influence of his perception of the compact.
In Ghana Sania
The thank that too extreme views up existence and only existence,
are also the outcome of his perception of the complex invegual to form,
is bournout by the falling to lines of the voice,
we quoted from the colorhardby wahl is update.
In europäischer song. Rube, so this wahr,
wie Bawang, Bawang, ja. Venicia Yangudin, Yandologie
. Heaving seen the existence and distruction of material forms.
A man in this world comes to a conclusion.
The worlding has the idea definitely forms have an absolute existence
I sei dir, is the result of this perception of form.
In this a perception arising out of his inpression of that striking against.
Whatever, the level of this perception of form be,
it is not better than the empression of a blind man.
But do experien views of absolut existence and non-existence in
the world are based on this kind of impression.
Barrious types of the use and opinions, current in the world,
regarding my teurophon, stand might the ingenual.
All the out come of the notion,
that there
are absolutely real
There's a tendency in the workling to pression that what in Grass with his hands.
And sees with his eyes, it is absolutely.
So it thing is said exist for some längs of time,
before gets discron. The lotical conclusion, then is that
all things in the world. English absolutely. And that
at some point of time, they get absolutely discron.
This is how in the two experience of absolut existence.
Ein absolut non-existence have a reason in this world.
This is the outcome of a perception of form,
which is tanta month to a persuit of an irange.
It is an illusion
The wouldn't has to cleared in the Jatar,
that were name in Form,
as well as resistance and perceptional for my Kartoffel and socies.
There the interiors in society problem with Jamar ins to a tangle
within and the tangle without, is also conclusive fly solved.
Then this is so could be in firt to some
extent from what we have this gust so far.
Nam and rooper, as well as partiga in Europa,
Sania, a heil is sygnificant turns.
But it guy and Europa Sania,
a equivalent to particle some passion and a divide channels
on passion,
Now, Ashley this perception of hone. It is basically quantition by contact.
That is why the color have you varia suited states,
that contact is to calls of the two use of existence and on existence.
In this color have you varia suite,
our fine is a serious of questions and einzelns.
Going deeper, in deeper, into the analysis of contact.
Step by step. The question, pass on our cosming,
coudonidanum. What is the calls of contact in this world?
Gets the answer, namens in rupanische participassu.
Siependedon nehmen Form is contact
The next question is, keep siming be pult in up
with santipasar in the upsance of what to contact,
not ring about content, or touches do not touch.
It gets the answer. Rupe, we put in a
posantipasar, in yaps sensor form, context do not bring
award content. The question that comes up next,
in the heimseguren, I extreme new important.
There lite to a deep banalis is of the domma.
So much so the bold voses,
these are to be coded
in full
The question is. Kathan, something is that the European Zugang,
the coming war die Kartang, lieb ho, die ether
me pabruhie, etali proti, Tanjania mai, dimi manua
ho, to one constitute in which männer this form seast
, we this is. Or how even pleasure empain,
seast luxist, do tell me how all these become non existent,
that is not this such a dog to rosing me
Die Hansa do this question is cultured in this expert ordinary verse.
And I sunny a sunny, navisony, no pia,
sunny, navisony, no pia, sunny.
Yvan, some it tasks, we'm hold europan,
sang yanny, a nahi, palent yoursanca. Kommen,
translation by become modi of this two vs. How must one
it thing for form to venish, how do pleasure and pain,
also over enish.
Please them it is how the venish.
We would like to know that such as
my thought
Not tässipient, true perception, not player, sibient through and distruct, perception.
Not old together without perception, not percepient of what has managed.
For menschens for one will has so attäned. For concepts duty peripheration, are are based on perception. And here is the Channes Perlen,
ja, der ist ja Translation by Babbat,
byte I find that Translation, not to be sophisticently closed to the original,
so I are ventured to give my own Translation,
with some hasitation, because this Text,
Teiche in 409 Diät ist bei der Translatter,
wo ich mich annows of Familie und so I'm not intire issue,
so it's just an attempted translations and ombitakenester, final world.
Not percipion of a perception,
not with perception of form, night a empersible,
not with active perception, when you support perceptions,
regard atteachment,
because perception is the vood of the Gramma and in
volles lokal
End of Common. What this was purposed to discribe as
the state of a person for home form as a pleasure
and pain, as see streams is.
He's not one with normal perception, no is he one
with up normal perception. He is not non percepient,
no has he, we see in the perception.
He is to one constitute in this manon,
that forms he is to exist, for a popponjassongha,
whatever to me be, a perception as their souls.
The meaning of this verse,
needs to be clife
it further
Ja. Appolding to the marny decision. The alusion in
this worse is to one way is on the part to the formers worms.
Having a tain the first for abosoptions. The commentary is forced
to that conclusion, because it takes the frace now vivotes sunny as any
gating formers worms as such. The assumption is that the
person referred to is now the conclusions with normal perception.
Nur abnormany concious. Nur in the void of perception.
Has in the attainment of the sization,
9 one of the formers
So, wenn die Onnipossibility seem to be to identify it,
with some intermediate state.
That is why the Mohannik Leser and the other commentaries,
interpret, this problematic state, as that of one,
who is on the past to former sutements.
Europa mangels are mini. I have a considerations of context and presentation would
leaked to a different conclusion. The extraordny state a look at two,
by this worst, seems to be is to common in one,
which goes find deeper,
than the so call in the media state
The Transcenes of Form indicated hear is more validical,
the net Transcendence and your training to former states.
Coming. Yeah, I'm support of vendable in
your einanders interpretation, I body this helpful,
if we're look at versus that come before.
And I'm giving the party and the translation by look a voly.
Pastanidana, sadana sadan, passy as sunt in a balvan de idee.
Wie bei Bang ba van chabi, yameda matang,
yedan, tepabron, it tonidana.
The blesson and unblessing originate from contact.
Ben contact this not exist and this doing
a come to be
As to this matter of vanishing, coming to be,
I tell you that it originates from this.
Yeah, vanishing coming to we, I would have transity
of this is existence, at money existence.
And so I think already this passage on the non-existence of
contact and the question on Gibberva and Bava,
makes it fairly clear and that topic at stage at question
is quite a profiled one
It is and really only one what expect that will do
lead the discussion up to nimbana and not to intermediate stage
before attaning and eminettials fair our even in immattials fair,
because this is not all side of the vange of contact
and also not all side of the duality empetitiving existence and only existence.
Next dennis pass on on our cast mingudoni that not parigen beharrd,
character parita, kiss minger sun and emma mathemati,
kiss ming vim
hodenaposanti passan.
Es ist der next question
Vom Walt in the World, das contact oveginate.
Vom Walt to positions to überall. When what does not
exist, is there no taking is mine?
When what has van is to contact not touch one?
You are again, I think, again, than the
question of now contact and even more importantly, there is
no mamagda. On taking is mine. And this is
really, this really require is leading up to the experience
of Nebana
Namen Chirurg, Paddicia Passa, die deutsche Paddicia Passa,
die deutsche Paddicia Passa, die deutsche Paddicia Passa,
die deutsche Panament von possessionser based on design.
Wenn die Seilen das not exist,
wer es not taking is mein, wenn du Form hast,
wenn nicht, kontext to not touch one.
So again, Frieden from Design,
not taking is mine,
there willy point to the final goal and the shift from
namauropa in the first part
to Jesteuropa in the Final
And yeah,
it was a little bit the impression that when we have this rupe vibude,
when form his vanished,
that is actually a short and where friends to in namen rupe,
we go to that the question at steak is we're to
go to the dobanishing of namen for not just of form and that is just because of diverse and the meet and the silber
count that it's not we don't get the full turn. Anyway,
this is just my interpretation and I just pointed to look
at the previous vs. that eventually that do and the nassania sunny
verse in support of the understanding in Interpretation by Benably aneinander,
that no Sanya Sanya etc., must be referring to experience related to a wakening.
Tony Banner, because that is were contact seases,
were one gets hot of my making in I making etc. End of comment.
It is a transcendance that is sugo monday in leveln.
As we may will in from the last line of the birth,
Sangha in idana, hippa panshis on car.
The panshis song car is it term,
which has a relevence to inside meditation.
And the in noment of the suttar is also
to suggestive of such
a meditation
The color in die Waldershutte, consisting of 16
vs. Is from beginning to end and network out lieb
questions and answers leading to loves of insight. The opening
vs for instance statest innischer problems follows. Gutur Bautag,
a la Havivada, Parileva sogar, sah manche Radia,
Mana, Timana, Sahapesunata, Kulturparoda, Tina ling, a blue.
When's to speng up, contentions and disputed clementations,
souls and endys. And arrogance together with Slender,
when's to the spring up,
prey term me this
Kommt, Transsation bei Pickle Booty. From we are do
quals and disputes alrians, lamentation, so and viseriness.
Konsilient Aargan, so long with Slendon, from birdle they
are rights, please to me this end of content.
He dising answer to this basic question that this discourse gratulierene Vorsitzender.
In a cordins with a love dependent arrising,
the corns of conventions and disputes, as said,
to be the then and see to hold things deal.
Yeah,
go to Galahavibada
And the question is about the cars of this idea of holding things there.
The cars of it is said to be design.
China lidanani, Piani, ok, things the originate from Desailor.
Desailor interest makes things in dire. The next question is,
what is the origin of design? Design is strange to
the destinction with when the pleasent in the Unpresent.
It is in replied to the question regarding the original of
this distinction, between the pleasent and the Unpresent,
that condit is proding
Infact, it is the question as a the origin of content.
Passion on our customer couldoni done, which formed the starting
point of our discussion. The answer to that questions nehmen form
, namens Cherubanjem. So in this chan of courses,
their link that comes next to contact this nehmen form.
Now the versing question, beginning with now,
and your sonny, goes deep build and name in the form.
Even the question about contact tassible cuel your wording,
kiss ming the boot in a posantipassal.
Mein, what is not there to to touch is not
The question then is not just in the suissation of contact as such.
The answer two has the same peculiarity. Europa lieb holdinabos
an die Passan. Etwas in Form ist noch der,
der touches to more touch. It is this subsequent question
regarding form that brings out ecryptic verse as as the einzeln.
All this cause to show that the versing question,
a lots to a super mondain state.
Far transcending the formers, so anyther post intermediate stage.
The transcendance of pleasure and pain as well as perception
of form is in bly
The Verse beginning with Nassanya, Sunny,
brings thing tie, analytical disquisition, do a clients.
Ecomes as this 13th both in the series.
Usually such a disquisition, lease up to a climics,
highlighting in epana. It is obviously off,
that the reference here is to the nimmt mine mind.
We have here fornigations. Nassanya, Sunny, navisany,
Sunny, nobia, Sunny, navisany.
These fornigations in Simmit is
strange, supermondane level of perception
Insure did is an attempt to unalyze to prax of the done more in terms of persiption.
As to the improvokation for such an approach,
we mean, reminder asselves of the fact,
that according to the wood that, release from materiality,
amonity release from the perception of form.
Yeah, we have something really been.
As it was said it in the cheptars or than,
for the discent engling of the tanker,
nimm in form resistance,
in perception of form,
have to
be karton
This last mension perception of from Europa Sania is highly significant
. Bevor wir Vent of the Wunder,
the General Belief, even a mona citics,
was that in all to be free from form,
one has to a tain to the formless Europa.
But this we point it out in earliers someone,
this kind of approach to the question of freedom from Form.
Is like the attempt of one who having imagined and ghost in
the darkness of the night, runs a way to skipping?
He simply taking the fantasy of the ghost
with him
Like wise, Perception of Form is already implicit in the from us.
What has been done is on your pushing a way of
the perception of Form with the help of Slancardas.
It is many as a pression of from two the power of episoption,
it doesn't not amount to association of the perception form.
What then is the message, the buddha gave to the
world regarding their bundle and by way of everydication.
You pointed out that freedom from Form can be one only,
by comprehanding a certain deep nortive principle on behind perception
To then one keep song going round in Sangharda. Even
if one breaks away from from to DVI and information rance,
one swings back to form at the end of that period.
Why? Because to ghost of form still horns defomers.
It is precisely because of this fact, that pre-buddhistic cassettics
good night freedoms ups from the round of existence.
The colorhavy war das so that as a whole,
could be regard this in extremely,
lieb banalysis of the basis,
what the do viewers of existence and one existence
Auen, die Partie vom Themanic Leser, in Bring I to
the Interpretation of this discords, might sometimes because in question.
Palette vice, Giant sheets weason will us only soul merrians.
A cording to a interpretation so far, 13th vs,
marks, the climix of the discurs, with it's alusion to need by not.
This is alusions from the 14th vs,
in which the questional confessors, young than a putty mark,
it tayener, anyone than putt, chama taying, Bruhi.
Whatever we have us tune, than we have explained vs.
Now we we vish to ask you something else.
Pray, give us on 1 to that
Kommen, der Transformation bei Mickey Bolin, you explain class,
what ever we ast you, net us,
now art something else, please to me this,
in his annotation to his fortcoming,
sudany about translation, we come booty, weasons that,
you also in disagrees with the commentary interpretation,
that diverse, nassany,
sany,
we first to intermediate stage between to for the prosorption entertainment of the sphäre of infinite space,
and he instead suggest that there maybe a relationship to the
attimen of night of persiption,
no non persiption
I found this and very interesting I need. And so
my present stage of understanding of color, wie war der Sutter?
Which is certainly not final. I think that we nomen you know,
that's probably right, that la Sania Sania vers,
does we for to need banner.
But what come snacks and when the question is as,
I'm going to ask something else,
and he brings in the idea of a self.
I think that the question of problem mission as stunded.
And would have taken that worse to we for to
nine of perception and long perception
So that is the way,
I make sense of it or out of out of the
hole discos do just somewrize it and brief the basic question
about world with squareling start from leads buy a server conditions,
finally to the state of Nibaner.
As that were in contacts and my making seas.
But the cryptic reference to nibana is missanes to it by
the question to be a reference of 90 perception on non perception.
And therefore we are the next question to which we will no come.
That is just my take on the sitter.
End of comment
The question now, post is this, it tabat are gang,
nova danti, häki, Jackenkasse, suddending ede panditase.
Dauwan young, biva danti, etto. Tu san,
who are recon this wiseman here, the claire the high
spirity of this or with this much along.
Or as to depolity, something else beyond this.
The interlocoda is trying to get the solution west stated in
comings of the two views of existence and non-existence.
The Jamiyaka is used in this context in the sense of
individual shower. It betrays an assumption based on
wrong you
To question concerns to purity of the individual sale,
then the loculator, once to assotain with a wise men,
the world disclair,
this state, as the highest speoty of the sale.
Or what are the gobyon, this impostulating, something more.
Here is in Attent, to get the one,
so all the given resudated in terms of the soultheory.
As sort of anticlonics. The tour concluding versus that following
give the line to this pressumpties question.
It down a long people done to heaky,
jacken kass, sudden thing, ehe,
bandy da sehen
Dieser Pannek ist, Samayang war dann die Anno-Buddys,
sie ist seku Salavadana, Samuel,
Regarda this virise men here, call this itself,
the high spirity of the individuals all.
But there aregainst, Samayang there more speak of an Annihilation,
playing to it be experts in this sessation that out of resident you.
He definited vao oppanissita, the Marmonien is sayes,
so wie man sie. Ja, war wie Mutter,
die Motto, navivane,
medi,
vavavaba war ja nassamedienherum
Neuen der Näherdependent, Don't Speculative Views, The Sage with disson,
and but we got to what ever speculative.
Emancipate there is through understanding, does not into this build.
A truey wise man does not fall back, I don't
existence or non existence. Kommt. Translation by Bikoboni.
So wise man he say at this point, that this is
deform us beauty of this spirit. But someone then speak
of Entertainment, claiming to be skill in that with up
resident your remaining
Having known there to be dependent,
having known the dependencies, the moni, the investigator,
having known liberated, does not end to disputes.
The wise one, does not come a point various states of existence.
In the last line is in form by the commentary,
Parlamentanjodica, which understands in Bavard,
Bavard and assumaty to mean realizing
The words summity itself, I are given here in the party english,
dictionary, has no ensup come together, meet essemble,
associatement, go to corresponding, agree, no konsinuel fitting.
And I'm giving here three passages were, it has this sense
of a green. The first one from the Leganicaya,
where the words has that about certain,
because one brownings, that with certains things here greens,
and with allerdings seem disagrees.
And the statement from the munchy money cay,
that in the meaning could be new friend and expression,
good be inagreement,
or the meaning could be inagreement and expression could
be different
Andinian Gutanika, ja, somebody who is has that all that what has just
said that he's in agreement with between the good and hingself.
So it last to comeback to the Translation of this worse,
I think, in the, does not
fall back is somewhat free rennering, but I think,
it it brings how the sense.
And I would also a personally profer to have existence and
known existence for a
varia here
And in the previous was for a summer year,
this in Paniko Summer Yoga Dante, I would just think the sense,
that it is something temporary, would be appropriated.
So I guin, I mean, this is the columny what I
is a challenge and this versus I also not easy.
But what I would understand the cording to the interpretation,
I mentioned before is that like in the first two lines,
it does that that I can pubertante,
he can cassasuding in your panikos in the buddhist just repeating,
what the question has send.
And then that those who Ah, speak, expertise in non-attachment,
they would call this just a temporary temporary thing.
And on the understanding that this is nine the perception on
perception that would be quite of feeding thing.
It's just a temporary thing. And then last birds than
nowing what there dependent done and investigate in the dependency and
the liberated and not going into in disputes,
the vice does not agree or goal long with,
and the existence on on existence
Anyone that is just my attempt to make sense out of this cutter.
And of found. The concluding voice eminds to a refutation
of both these experience. The true evise sage was
released with Papa disserment of the nature of dogmatic involvement.
Is not disputes, but those who had lower hands with
each other on the issue of existence and on existence.
This in effect means that nibanes and goalable,
awards both expremes of eterorialism and leader little.
And this I find the very
important statement
And it is something to which, I like to come back at the
end of delection and of common. Do by sever,
so that in the Parai in a vango of the Suttanibators,
provides for the proof of the plosibility of their more interpretation.
There nebana as the sizesation of consciousness in the other him,
is compared to the extinction of a flane.
Achiyata Vater Hygiene Kitto, Attentank, Paletting, Olpedisang,
Gang. Evan Moni, Namakaya, die Mutter,
Attent, Palett in Olpedisang kann. Das Flame flang an,
bei force of week, weges is end,
comes not with in reguling
So the same release from nehmen for beaches is end,
comes not with in mechany. Come, ton snation
by be commony. As flame thrown by engas not
win, du passier, set the best of one.
Goes out, then cannot be designierted. So the money,
liberated from the mental body, goes out than cannot be disignative end of commons.
When a flame goes out, it cannot be recon,
there's having gone in any of the directions,
like not these sourced in West.
All that can be said about it it,
is that it
has connot
Even how to the buddha has given this reply, the brumming you depressiven.
And trenged assy is in the eternalist view. Brace is
a question, which is similar to the one already quoted.
Comment already quoted, I think, the reference is to
the Yakasso Sully question in the colorvivators and of comments.
He to is drying to on the stand in terms of
the two experience views of existence and on existence.
I don't dank at those, that the odauer is
says for thiarogo. Tanglimoni, sando via agarohie.
The teilte Venedoes and Hamon
Hass your beach this end, or is you no more,
or is you it only well. That do me saying full explain,
for this lamma is well with in your can.
Comment, translation that you combodi. But doesn't one you has gone out,
not exist, how else is you health the through eternity.
Explained this metaclearly to meomony, for this lamma has been understood my you.
And I'm also edding the next verse in party and but dicke bodies,
translation cause I think it helps to have dass wir in Tire-Kontext,
weil in Mind. Attentangatas sind ein paar Manemer,
die Opasiva, die Barbara, jenen Namen bei Dju,
tang passen, tang passen, tang passen, tang passen,
tang passen, tang passen, tang tang passen.
There's no masure of one west queen out to per sever centerless one
. There's no means by which they might speaker film.
My now, I've been I'm not have been a brüted,
all park ways of speech are also uploaded.
Yeah, I find this worse particularly segnificant
And that it shows that to my mind,
that minds of controversy or inbana.
Is you to trying to cross pin turns of language something,
that is in principle be on language.
That's topic overall so come like to the end of election.
End of come. In the discourses,
we find similar instance to so far teams to determine in
terms of those two expreme views.
Ebene a conclusive statement of the wunder on the question of libana.
Yet another instances this fund in the Potterbades,
also da wird irgendeine Kai
Then the boot outlines, the part to nipaner,
from the point of view of perception.
The discourse there for is one that highlights,
the importance of the term Sanja. In the discourse,
the part of training liegen to neben warness, introduced on other heading.
I'm not book gabi Sanjania rodes, Sanpajanas, a marbatin.
They tamen with follow awareness to the grind discissation of higher
lovels of perception. Holy significant in this particular kontext,
is that the invitation for this exposition,
can from dia citics of other sechs
And responsed to their request to in lighten them on the
subject of the sessation of higher levels of perception.
It's an yannirouda. The boother give quite a long
account of the course of training required for it.
But that the end of that in the backsposition,
the wondering a citic potter bother raises the fully in question.
Sunny and corpor, polices at that, oh,
Anja, sanja, Anja, at that.
Is perception a mind so soul? Is perception something
and soul a nother? This is typical off,
their bying got at adduned,
which prevent it them from understanding this down mone,
free from the soul pretty this
We've been so far is to bring out to this evidence.
Because to point it issues Berlin putent. Even the are
demmed of the marnigneser, to explain the verse,
beginning with no Sanja Sanny, is far from conclusive.
It is not a role likely,
than the accetics of other set its suscribed to a view ventil intermediate stage,
between the 4th eps option and the first former subsolption,
is equivalent to the beerest state of the soul.
Suction into the state is of no account
Hash we go on, we might common cross for the
proof of the tenability of this interpretation.
Diverse beginning with Nassonia, Sané, is nun easily forgotten.
Because so it's an usual accent on the negative particular.
We might have to hark back to it, when we
come a cross similar discurses dealen with nippen by now.
Till then, let us remind ourselves of two similarlys,
we have all the given. In order to get a
4 taste of the significance of this problematic nose.
Firstly, the would does similarly of the magic show
as an illustration for consciousence in the Pena being to promise
Mayopa-Mannschaft in Jan. Wild Discribe in the Five Groups.
You compares consciousness to magical performance at cross-roads,
conducted by Amanjition, or his applinters. Amen,
with the right type of vision, watching missmagic show,
understands, that it is empty, hollow, in void of essence.
Yeah, these sehr, sehr fieses, since throom,
the tricks and diceptions of the magician.
Why watching a magic show, the audience and general
react straight with caping months and exclomations
But how would a man with a vadical attention penetrative whiston?
Who was fully a way of the tricks of the magician,
watch a magic show, he simply,
looking on with a vagic and gay.
This reminds as of the significants of the way being you
and on it does, and thank you very put one.
The gays is endless, a nant on. In the sense,
that it doesn't have, the magic show,
as it's object, and goes beyond.
You disauce to no one manifestative, on international.
Sinstamatic show does not manifestic sell. As it has norbing
penetrative through with whiston
This Wisstoms Revealingen is all last to snature, somewhere to babone.
Zum Beispiel mit Tricks are seen through. So this man
of this serman this watching with a way and guys.
Now, how would such your personal beer to one
is to looder than enchantant by the magic show?
The letter might we go to form as an in-ittentive spectator,
who miss is the magic show.
Or else, you might thing that do are vice out
of his sensors, how insan said.
What the riddle vose beginning with Nassanias,
I near refers to,
is such your way
and gays
That is to say in the person refree,
to is not one with the ordinary worldlings perception, which is their looted.
Nowhere see fainted, and become on conscious. Nassania,
Sunny, navisania, Sunny, he's not in a trans,
the vold of perception, nopious sunny,
no heasy put and end the perception, no, we bothe sunny.
What is for innigations highlight is that back and gays,
of the one with in vencipated through with them? Kommen. Ja,
I think this probably and maybe and slight error that our court in the all presentation,
but we sonja, Sunny,
does not with thought to being to having fain to or becoming one conscious,
but is has the sense of a distorted perception.
End of cound
Somewhat on the lines of the similary used by the rundle.
We might we interviews as a flashback this similary of the cinema.
No intesse modernistic favor, it cooper helps be more eyesely and this stunde.
There are supposed that the martinissue of a technical of
film issing progress with closed dose in Windows.
Suddenly by some technical effect the dose and windows of langupen.
What would be the change of perspective in this spectate and now?
He to would be loging on with a way and gays.
Those still the show is going on,
he's not on our sing it.
As sort of sensation is accured that this temporary
The Team, es war erst die Object davon aus,
Sirmans, Ace Express,
die Interpretation wie in der this is people this is excellent etc.,
which forms that rubrik, as it were for is someone.
The change that occurse indespectated now is some of premisent effect.
Don't not all preparations, at least those preparations,
connected with the filmshow are momentarily still.
Whatever are sets in the form of the bying love experiences.
Or which the filmshow is evalued, relinquish.
The braving or that in that in design for the show
has gone down
The colorful show has faded away, making way for the deutschement.
The film show has seased for here. It is also
extinct for him, sinces Verning Desire has school off now
. In this way, we can understand,
the foreposaling legations, in the Griddlevers, as an attempt,
to describe the backen gays of this spectator.
And that man with dissumant at the medician.
And other aspect of special signabicans in this widdleverse
immerges from the last line.
Sanja Nidana,
Hebapan Jesamka
Which could be tangatively, when it dice for whatever,
I turned to Papa in Jasanka, have the Aception as there source.
Capania is a down with the deep philosophical down menschen in
Buddhism. Infectiven the rise of many buddhist sects,
could be put down to insufficient uprisciation, of its significance.
In one philosophical tradition to, much of the confusion,
with we got to the interpretation of nimbana.
Sims to have come about, you too a like
of understanding in this particular fear.
There are for me proposed to deevote sophicial time a tension
to querified the significance of this dom,
To begin with to become bring up clear evidence of the fact and that the word
perpenture is used in the discourse is to conversion deep idea.
Also rule, whenever the bundar and presence as set of
ideas, but taining to sun them a dopping.
The deep is, other most important of them, is mension plast.
This feature as quite evident in the ongood renicaya,
where very after in a serminists into on full itself
in in a sending order, leading to a climbings.
In a innomeration of items, the last but not
the least, happens to be the most important
Grinden that this is the General Chand,
we can trace is many as nine, such contexts.
I'm on the suddens. I'm which Papanjas kind of last.
This it's out with a clue to its and bottoes.
One of the most telling instances is to be found
in the 8s of the Uncutoran egayern. Et is gold
an order the mahavitacasuta. There are we are toward,
9to veno run a runner, once mediting in soliduding party navang Sapak.
The forming some thoughts are good,
consuming down
Abitscha seien in Hammer, nein, in Hammer,
might in just sin. Son do ta seien,
Hammer, nein, in Hammer, san do ta seien,
Hammer, nein, Hammer, san Ganicardamasse.
Aran de viria seient Hammer, nein, Tammogussi tassin.
Opatitas de seient Hammer, nein, da haben wir Mut,
besser gedissen. Sag mal, das seien, Tammo,
nein, und Hammer, seien, Tammo, nein,
Tammo,
du Paniasse
Die ist damals für one who ans nütteln,
not for one who ans much.
Dieses drama ist für one is contented, not for one
with discontented. Dies ist damals für one is secluded,
not for one is found of society.
This damals für die Energetic not for one with waysy.
This done is for one my setup mind for miss.
Not for one with loggert in mindfulness. This done is
for one who is conposed, not for one is pflastered.
This done is for one who is wise,
not for one,
we see I wise
Common Transcation My Picton Boni. This down is for one
with few designs, not for one with strong designs.
This domas for one his content, not for one his not content.
This damals for one results to solid doo,
not for one in the lights and company.
This damals for one his energetic, not for one his lady.
This domas for one with mindfulness istablished, not for one
with model minded. This domas for one his concentrated,
not for one is unconcentrated. This damals for one his wise,
not for one home his unwise
When these seven talks, oh Gott, to him,
wenn dann auch nur in der Captain Penguin over them
for long while, probably with the some donalses.
You might have even felt confident, than this is a perfect set of domma thons.
Since the number seven in Wisdom comes last.
How happen? The buddable was monitoring is behavy of mind from Basel
Calavany, many links away, and found that is,
set of serveness far from complete.
So you are to be in before,
wenn on on on on done,
to is psychic power and having first commanded minute on one of those 7ths,
calling them thons obgradement to my police of itacca.
Give him on
I'd on to them and pondo prom.
Diät. Don't a great man is. Nippo pon charama
say young young young young young young young young young.
This damals for 100 likes and delights in nippa buncha,
and not for 11 and delights in per Puncha.
Kommen, dann say ich ihn bei Big and Body.
This now mys for one on the lights in non-Proliforation,
all textilite lighting non-Proliforation, not for one in the lights in proliforation
or textilite in poliforation
Voll in der Bundesinstruction this concern in Venom Anorunda at dent Adam Hund.
And at at at to two vs. as a pay in of join.
From the two vs is it becomes clear,
that the bund this head full him,
we guying nipped bungeon, why you maybe?
What you wait my mean? Was, was trigger to
off his authingment? You tar me, our sang kaputt,
that to ultury these, you nipped bungeon, to up,
to up, to up, to up,
to up,
to up
Und er ist da als Herr meinem Going Fabian,
der Lord Preach to me, der Bund,
und die Leinen sind nicht die Bandschen,
die Breach to me, understanding this dom on,
had world the lighting in its at monition,
that three knowledges are than done done is the buddhist behess.
Come on slash in buy and we can bally.
He told me more than my starts content.
Und da wurden die Lighting in non-Proliferation instruct
it me in non-Proliferation. Having a learned his dom on,
ID light it in his tiging
I've get three two knowledges, the bundesteaching has been done.
So hier ist der relevante Pass nicht von der Majema Agama und ich bin beginnend mit Buddhis Replied,
eine der hohen Reflektionen, mit Beats,
die mit dem Start in den Ass der Atomen sind.
It is well, it is well, eine Runde,
to are see the meditation in the quite place,
reflecting you had this deven dones.
The Pass is a tained through having no deseilers,
not to having deseilers. The part this eptain through contentment,
not out through in this sellispection
The part is a tained to clue seclusion. Not through we choicing company,
to building in company, when together with company.
The part is a tained through effort, not through indulants.
The part is a tained through right mindfulness, not through wrong mindfulness.
The part is atained through a concentrated mind. Not to a distracted
mind. The part is atained through whistom, not front illusion.
And not do that you're enscialgressive from the taktagate and et
that of a great mind. Every receive did reflect on it
The path is a addended to upsence of proliferation,
the lighting in upsence of polliferation and practicing upsence of proliferation.
Not through politoration, not tonly lighting in producation, not took practicing politoration.
And then here also the verse bei anderen Runden,
he told me, regarding the 7 that's in my mind
and then added to further one.
Name it that doing buddhist delight in upsence of proliferation,
being far removed from any proliferation.
Having come to known the Namen from him,
being happy is tablish in the true down
Concentration and Penetrative Wisdom. What was to be done in
the buddhist teaching has been done? And now ey,
just wanted to make a buy the side a coming on a interesting difference on the palace,
regarding the actual meeting, in the angood enecaya,
the mingham algama and as an individual transsation,
they all reported to budd a drive by supernoman means.
And Indian Gutanicaya, specifically if we take into a count
was telegata verse, but in an inner runde,
it's seems that the ein year as that the buddha created
a mindmade body and can good that.
But in an ecothetical argama parallel, actually anorupt a hepcome
to visit to be done and giving there.
Chinese year, which clearly imprise that you sipply walk up
to the Buddha and paid is respect to hirn.
And the passage is interesting in sofa as it shows
different stages in the development of the ein deal of how
this meeting to place and it helps to contactualize the idea
of Supernomor feeds in particular feeds in volking levitation
Article that our make a vailable on the form.
I've disscussed this and come to in the suggest gen that the original idea,
behind levitation,
was the ability of manitate to manitate of power to con to extract
a mind made body out of the physical body and travel with this mind made body.
So I mean, get extescriptions like diving into water and adiving into the earth and sorry,
walking on water, touching the sunning one,
visiting some labels and even visiting like the buddha visiting on our owner.
The idea would apparent it have been at the beginning only that this
was happening with the mental body
And it is only later literalism, that would have flat
toon understanding that this is actually a physical act of lavitation.
And of comment. The words of henom unrunter,
clearly revealed immens significance, attached to the temper puncher.
And it's velopments to the question of a taking in epana.
It is not word to that the number of soctes,
like color, wie war das, sakapagne, sudden,
juda, see and others, and madopining a sutter.
Give commonence to the temper puncher ballasting it as to last
One of the most important discourse is throwing a light on
the significance of this tramper punch,
is the more opinion suite of the money manicaria.
Meshan there for pure see to do this cars this particular situation läng.
Der Marropiniker suttes infector discourstet am Fortseed Surf in three stanges,
like a three act play.
It might not be inapped to see something about the type
of this discourse, by way of introduction,
before we get down to
in on alive
It's the conclusion of the discos. Wenn du plan
and the makes the following coming on in significance,
bevor die wohnen werden. Lord, indianasters if a man,
who will come by hungry exorction, came a pon a honeyball.
And for what every side the goals on ligging it.
So would get a sweet delectable flavor, which we mains on impaired.
So a tour lord any nimble with it monk from whatever Angle,
he examines with wisdom, the meaning or this this consumer domma,
he would find a
setisfaction and leadness of mind. What is so name of this
disco slot
It was tendled to be do gave this name to the disco saying,
well, then on on the your may remember this discos
and then your may, is the Honeyball discos.
Comment, Transfation by Become Bolty of one understatement.
Bei einer Resseur, just to see for man,
excuse it by hunger and begness. Claim of one a honeyball,
wherever he would tasted you would find the sweet delectible flavor.
So to venember sear, in ebel minded migron,
wherever he might scrudinized with wisdom,
the maining of this discos on the hunger,
would find citics faction and confidence of
When I was what is the name of this discuss
on the namen. And here also the maniamer version world
is the buddha who comes hot with the honeyboard similary.
Monks, it is as if someone,
the cause of doorling in a security place, in the mountain sour,
forced, what is suddenly optain a ball of honey.
And jever part of it its, he gets the taste of it.
In the same way at plans, many might true,
down in disziplin, which have a part of it he contraplanes,
he gets the taste of it, contemplating the eyes,
he gets the taste, contemplating the use,
knowns,
tong body,
contemplating the mind,
the taste
Ja, hey, but digitally like the
neuen Sport out by the money my argument similary,
which to my mind in which is this summilar of the honeyball.
And that is ball of funny is sweet, whatever one.
Bytes into it, wherever one taste it. And so
this analysis of the sechs sense fairs presented in modopänica sutter
can lead to the taste of liberation, the taste of the Dharma,
by being apply to any of the sense doors.
It doesn't matter, which one on users,
as long as one,
gets that
penetrative inside
Through, that's sense door process. End of comment.
We my not have the ability to as him rat fully,
the flavor of this discourse, and the any case, we might not even
have so vision time for it today. However,
if we are to make a start,
we my beginning with the first act, that is,
where we find the bounder, spending is non-days,
yeah, step my
how on in capital wappen. So this suck you
and don't in the pany. So call because you used
to clarious stuff in hand
Kamms to see the bunde. Imputs the falling short question
to him. King one is someone, King on Kai.
What does the recluses asylt? What does the proclaim?
Kommen yeah, this is obviously some what challenging and we
may some that say in the napanie wars.
I'm happy that to member of this. Family happy come
every close and so is the way he asted is vather
impolite and enchallenging and of comment.
The world this reply to it this vather long and winding.
So much so and that it is not easy to
ended clear enough
Ja, Tavanikoa, wo ist so Salivaki-Loki, Samaraki,
Samaraki, Samaraki, Samaraki, Samaraki, Samaraki,
Japan, Japaner, Kami, die Sangmi, die Sangmi,
die Sangmi, die Sangmi, die Sangmi,
die Sangmi-Senti,
Evangwang,
die Savanghai
I quanting to what are a doctoring friend, when does not qual,
with then you want in the world, but the scotts,
it's mothers in Brahmas, with the Brangineer of the World,
comprising weg, closers in Brahmas, Gods and Man.
And all so do to which perceptions,
no more underly that Brahming, who are bynes,
detectived from sense pleasures, without perplexity,
we more skartoff and the void of Bremen,
for any kind of existence,
such is my doctoring friend,
last do I problem it.
Coming translation van Janamoni
Friend, i certain proclaim, my teaching, such a way,
that one does not qual, when you one in the world,
with it's gone, it's model, and it's brough models.
In this generation, with it's back to uses and downings,
it's princess in its people, in such away,
that perceptions, no more underline that moming,
where bidens detects from central pleasures, with art perplexity,
shown of worry, free from craving,
for any kind of being.
And the minimum I'm our paraly, suckian, my teaching is,
not to qual, with anyone in the intire world,
there was models,
but not models,
reduncing,
centremens,
from human beings to device
To practice the pure holy life, the clonely from sential designs,
cambon and hip occracy, cut of worries,
and not be a attached to existence, long existence or non-perception.
This is the basis of my dispensation,
this is what he didge, and of course.
The must be noted that the world brachman in this context,
before to the other hand. The reply wining as it is,
cost deep burn is in sinnovations, tuching the pressumptions of the Questioner,
that is to say generally in the world, if
anyoney, if anyone, proclaims a doctor,
it is natural it it will come in the congrat
mit other doctorens
Also in proclaiming that doption, when has to
have late in perceptions, we lating to it.
The bundes replyer ever seems to controlict. This pressumptions.
In a natural, the reply amongst to this.
Burstly. The bundes teaching as such that the doesn't coming to conflict with others.
Sacrely, perceptions to more bly latent in him.
The occurrence of the termsonia perception in this context is also significant.
We have eure recepress the importants of this turn.
Preceptions to not lie latent in the bunder,
in the doctoring proponibaring
Dann der Punish Response, to this reply of
the build down, is also record in the sutting.
It is dramatic in out, to substantiat our comparision of
the discourse to a three act play. Then the pany,
shook is hand, wheng it his tone,
raise this eyeballs, into a three line throne,
one is for head and departed.
Leaning on istic. The bundesdrepline, the dot a rouse,
any faith in young. In the next act to we
find the build dress heater in the company of the monks
and the evening and telling them office briefing counter with them
the pany
Than one of the morns, we quite student explanation of them.
Anycomatic repline, the Buddha had given to down the pany.
The Buddha's explanation albert, took the form of an even
lange stimmen, nulles, endigmatic menta former.
Egots. You don't it down, we can pourism,
but one susan your Sanka Samudati, ettentati in natten diabinantitambann,
abi vali tambann, adjosi tambann.
Is you want to do that,
you can do that, you can do that,
you can do
Es ist ein Vater. Es ist ein Vater. Es ist ein Vater. Es ist ein Vater,
ein Vater, ein Vater, ein Vater, ein Vater,
ein Vater, ein Vater, ein Vater,
ein Vater, ein Vater, ein Vater.
Es ist nicht too that. Es ist nicht too be
light it in assured to clong to.
Wenn das jetzt so bestehend auf die andere Line tenden,
siehst du ein touchman to aversion to views to downs,
to concepts, to a tachman to ass existence in to ignorance
This itself is the end of taking roads and perpents calls,
this pilz. Accusations, Slender and from speech. Yeah,
this evil, unskript from states seas, who don't reminder.
Comment, don't slash in by in Janamoni. Nico,
says to the strongs, too which perceptions and emotions,
bone of mental polifulation besetterman. If nothing is found
that to the lighting, welcome and whole too.
This is the end of the underlying tendency to last,
auf die an allein tendency to a version, auf die anderleiintenden Sitoviews,
auf die anderlei Intensity dort auf die Underlei Intendencity-Konzip,
oft die an der Leyen Tendencity Design Phobie auf die Anerlintennen,
siehst du in uns.
Das ist die Antwort Resorting to Rolls and Workins, of quals,
balls, disputes, recrimination, manishes worlds and for spitches.
Hier, this evil Unnot some states, seas with argumented.
And the multime argumentation. Mons, support that the person,
with the consponding reflection as the cause,
leaves the house or life to train in the partner
Wir sind international in perceptional practices not desiring past future
and present phänomenal not be joying them not becoming attached to
them and not driving on them.
This is quality indoctuca, name it the end of the underline tendency to desirion.
The underline tendency to heaklyn. The underline tendency to existence,
the underline tendency to conzept, you underline tendency to ignorance,
the underline tendency to views, and the underline tendency to do.
This is quality end of core, resentment flattery,
this seed, fall speech, device of speech,
and innovative evil and unmosum states.
This is quality
end of doka
Yeah, my personal impression is that the might you
my argument and there's something as convention.
I've in the transmission or in the translation here.
It has some elements that still correspondent what you find in the party,
but the other parts, out of it, splains sometimes.
Anyway, end of come. After making such a long and wining statement,
the build their roles from it seat and when it was tooling.
As if it way a the end of the second act.
One can value mentioned the constellation of the monks that this
grammatic turn of events
The Explonation looked even most downing than the original statement,
because of it's enliptical cartoon.
So here is a case of a puzzle bit in a person.
It is the first few worlds, der da musste puzzeln.
Naturally the monge war superplex, that they decided to approach
even in a mugget chana. And request time to give
them addite and exposition of the bunk this worlds.
As you happen placed by the Buddha,
for you skill in this respected.
When the win to women may to with quest,
wenn man mugget chana shorts, a more
this heasitation and first but finding
engreed with
Now we come to the product, in which manual market
chinesis giving the exposition. Chakuncia, won't so particio,
won't job to job and yeah, ding men,
sagen wir, die Passung, Passapatia, wieder nah.
Young Ben D, die ganze Saniana, die Young Saniana,
die Tanguita Petit. Young Petita Petita, Young Paban J.,
die Katonidanen, Polisien, Baban, zusammen, ja,
Sangui, Kassamo, Deutscher Dante. AD, der Name,
der Chipane, der Chipane, der Europäischen Na,
Tony, bist du we got to I'm forms,
but also with reference to all the other sense vecrities,
including the mind, together with their respective sense objects,
assimilar statement is made.
So visit to translate the one quart of about as a powerline.
Epinome the I'm phones, bettering, rises, I consciousness.
The conconcurrence of the twee is contact, because of contact,
feeling, work from fields on perceivs,
born and perceivs one reasons about.
What one reasons about, one turns it to pop and change.
Wall point turns it to pop and to better
That on idane, which is stare correlitative of viate vegane,
from Nick Kingwold, in dem Bundesbrief, so my boy.
Papanjo Sanja, Sanga, we said him,
who directed his power of sense perception.
They over well him and sub to gate in begard of forms,
cognasium by the eye, belong to the pass,
the future and the present.
Comment, Translation by Indiana Moni, die Penelon,
die Ian Forms, i consciousness envises,
the meeting of the three is contacted.
But contact as condition this feeling,
what one feels that one perceives.
Walkman perceives that
one things about
What one things a lot that want mentely pretty rates.
Mit what point has mentally pretty for rated as the source,
perceptions and notion spone of menjor poliforation, percettiment,
with respect to past, future endpressing forms cognized world to the eye.
And then might your my armer version. And your friends,
independence in the eyen from this eye conscious devices.
The coming together of these three things this contact.
Independence on contact this feeling, if this feeling this perception,
if this perception, there's intention, if there's intention,
there's done,
it as thought
this differentiation
Am Monk, Heaven, gone force to train in the part,
that such a corresponding reflection as the calls. But enintention in the desception,
practices not desiring, pass future and prison phänomenal,
not we joising then, not becoming attached to them,
and not drawling on them, and of course.
This is saying with a we guy to the earn sounds and the rest,
lastly, even to got minded, mind of jeckles,
melon mark and chana, makes to similar statement.
At this point, we are forced to say
something about the commentary explanation of this particular passage.
It seems that in the commentary to exages is,
has feared to bring out the deeper implications of the down,
but by not
to Sanias Anka
The main reason protoconfusion his the lack of attention on the part
of the commanditon to the peculious syntax of the formula in question.
The formula beginnings on in personal not. Chakuncia vous up at
it you do better oben bei mir did that enguiniano.
The world prediction is reminiscent of the law of the pen and alizing.
Didn't done that depression, to concurs of it we is content.
Passe partiar envidenna. Condition by contact is feeling.
From here onwards, the formula takes a different done
Young BD, die Dang Sanjana, die Yang Sanjana,
die Dang BD, die Dang BD.
Walkman fields, one perceivs, well one perceivs,
one reasons about Portemonnaies in Borgman, thank you.
In this way, me can this ding wish and three phases in
this description of the process of sense perception in Venue market,
Channas Exposition. It beginns with then international not,
but that the point of feeling it takes on a personal
ending,
suggestive of deliberate activity
Young Vedet, die Tamsanjana, die Young San Janar, die Young Vedacati.
Young Vedacati than bottom Jady. Und nun feels,
more persives, we're kompressives on reasons about,
what on reasons about month, can see to perpentian.
Do we rando the former in this way,
in the comment your explains it, differently?
Et ic nose that is inefficence of the personal ending,
in interprets the sensory process, very postically.
For example as Sanias and Janadi, vidaco, vidacati,
the selbstepressives, reasons about etc.
Yeah, months to saying that my feeling hoccars,
perception comes forward in perceive side, then reason intexapt
the task of reasoning a more perception
Papania than Stepsing in conversative, reasoning to Papania.
This is how the commandary explains and formelant.
It is left out of account in the significance of the
use of the active voice in the section of the formular.
There's a special purpose in losing the active voice in this kontext.
Here is in Urlaub explain, how man is overwhelm
by Papania Sania Sanka.
Whatever it maybe
That velon market chanas introduced this sequence of evensing three phases.
In fact his strying to feel in the gap,
in the bar tha liptical stape in of the buddha,
beginning with, yet to nidalant,
because polices and polices and case more that it.
Monk from whatever source, but polices and your song coming
these settomen. The initial phases in personal,
but then comes the face of aktive participation.
From Feeling Onmost, the person behind it takes over.
Wolk on Fields, one perceives. Walk on perceives,
one reasons about. What would we isn't about
one downs in to Papanja
The gross is face is that there. Bei einer Marke Channels Formelor,
Shows, all the process of Sales-Perception, Granuliers and cross-form.
This third-face is implicit in the worlds, young places,
that one in dalent, police, and police,
and yes, and yes, and yes,
what don't done in the population, when to vent,
poppint, you saying yes, and can be said that men.
The white Purison, is in the apositive case here,
imply that the person who directed sense perception,
is in all be said with our overone by,
perpent is an years ongarn,
as in beside of which all the evil Ansgar for states,
come to be.
This it service and index,
studie in potents of that
support turn compania
The cause of events suggested by these three faces,
maybe illustrated, but the legend of the three magicians,
while journing to of forest,
three men skill to magic came of points,
scaled it heap of bounds of the three tiger.
To display their skillen,
one of them converted the bounds in to a complete skeleton,
the second cavid flash and blonde, and the third cavid live.
Their best record tiger and devard all three of them.
It is such a prettical men, that is hinted that
by the beculious sintacs of the former in question.
Their comparison of this discourse to a honeyball,
das ist an der Sterneraum
Senseite holds the secret of the late and tendencies to what's dogmatic views.
It also forwards the deep insight in to the nature of
the linguistic medium, and boys and concepts and everyday usage.
We haven't get clarioufighter me, of the down by one chan.
It is all the found in common palms,
as a word suggestive of their bosity in circum lucution.
Et emologically, it is traceable to pra and punch.
And contains, such meanings as as branding out,
expansion, diffusions and to manifulness.
The positive and circum lucution, using lead to their
lusion and confusion
Hoever. The World But Pine Jazz, sometimes used on do know
to conscious eloboration of what is all the expressing weef.
In this particular sense, the cognate tom we punchy done
new is used in the context of 4 types of person.
Disctinguist ecording to their loves of understanding. Nämlich rooking good
done you, we punchy done you nay you and but
a paramount. Hier we punchy tan you,
signifize that sort of person to home comprehension of the doctoren comes.
When the maining of what is attiting brief is unalyzed in
Olino, Pabanji in Linguistik usic,
est the insinuation of a certain degree of delusion,
got about by vermbosity in circumlo cution.
But tier the turn has a deepe, fallen flosshapiger in die Menschen.
Hier, it is not a case of ingustic usic,
but the be heavy of the mind as such,
since it concerns, sense perception.
Perfect, a netting follows in the wake of itacca,
is suggestive office affinity to be chara, or discuss it's done.
So often quoted as the twinning of itacca,
that is
as with
a caviciara
The mind has the tendency to wonderfare or now,
no wanga magic, that's the medium of thought, torgita can.
Then we tucker backs lose and once violence,
it queers this hird on the look will state of mind,
which is propansion. Comment? Yeah,
I have have identified as the selling point of his sammeln,
perception and it's proliferation to oper buncher.
And with this, we have come to the end
of Johnny 11 and there with also to the end of
this series of discussion this year
Ja, und next speak,
there will be summary by kindly off it drives by Entwicklung
jeder Marlina of the main point covered in these eleven someones
and their plan is to have a similar course next year,
where we will dann be taking up someones 12 tour.
Play two, yeah, another said of eleven someones.
And saw at this point by way of just giving kick,
ticking short dippet at the main point
What we are really concerned with his nibana. Ambasically to questions,
I think, one is, what is the actual experience like?
And the second is what happens to the fully
way can one up that. And I think,
if we approached this from the view point of the catcha in a gottesute,
about it to extreme to be award it,
there existence and on existence.
And then with the healk of the two versus that came
up in this someone, ogressiver, money mapuccian.
And Russland, the color given a suta,
which is like to present why one understanding
Point for reflection, maybe to deeper some company,
as it all be media next ear.
And I have a nother middle, illustration now.
So let us emansion that make me affist stands for cleaning.
And now, I mean, affist and have want tumbab,
this is for exists.
And then other fist want tumb down, this is
for doesn't know exists. So both of this assertions that
to experience in the catchina what is it that.
Are hege of them is in balanced.
The affirmation exist, egnore is that things disappear
And because of this signal, it has to cling boy
stoney to a from is, exist, everything exist.
And the affirmation exist not is equally unbalanced, edignose the
arising of things. So it also has to cling,
bright titly. To is not, everything is not.
And the two ogressively, I'm conflict with it other.
The one, one's to kick out the other. No,
I think this, no, doesn't next it, two.
There's a concept conflict between this studios and a concent cling.
The solution comes by seeing that it's night off it too.
It is deependent arising
An I'm know trying to exceemlified this by interlocking my two thomes.
In said of one pointing up in one pointing down,
the two are not interlocked.
Dependent rising. And because by seeing dependent rising the vision
becomes complehensive arrising and passing always can be accommodited.
There's no ongos for much need for clinging.
The face become more relaxed. And with continued seeing of
the two nature of things as dependently a rison phänomenal and
in common in firm nominare. As to clinging becomes one
more relaxed evengely
Wie am Condition dissingen. Now,
when I come to this point of the realization of Nebana,
and office implication for the after death state of the other hand to bringen,
again, existence and one existence is to introduce cleanings.
Tour condition where cleaning has long been left behind, it is meaningless.
It is meaningless to try to understand I thought of
this tour in terms of existence and on existence.
If it is already impossible to Explained the condition of the
other hand wise till a life intern of is and is
not how could is or is not be an appropriate way of approaching, what happens after death.
And the same with the experience of nebuned.
They question is there are something else,
when the six sense wears is seas, is Papanja,
is there not something as, is equality Papanja.
So what we have here is in terms of the oper sever mind of a putcher,
of the other hunt after dead, justice much as the experience of Nebana.
This are beyond the venge of language and accurate discription can out begiven.
It can only be pointed that. And one menable neaneinanders,
interpretation of the color, wie war das, ein Sutter,
in der Nassanja Sanny vers than the experience of Nebana,
that what the streaming draw has and were buy for the streaming draw,
this will issue becomes clear,
is a perception that is not a perception
Hätte es der Conscious Experience of this issation of consciousness?
It is a sphären of experience are yet one,
where are a sechs sphärence of experience,
summer yet one, have gone into a beyonds.
And this much is, what can be send?
The thinger pointing to the moon, has a function.
Hitch is has to be understood probably what it can
do the thing itself.
Is not the more
It can only point of them one in I'm also not
looking for the moon writer the top of the thinker.
The finger is farway from the moon. But the think is shows me a directions,
if a look a long that their ration,
let go of the fingles,
and keep looking a mentioned are beable to see the moon.
And that is what the think at tend to,
that is what this descriptions can do.
They can only point. In the direction.
Thank you