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And today, we are going to look at summon number 10.
But before that, I have again,
a few things from the form discussion in the last summen.
So one comment by Robert Grosh, was on this book
by Burpee, that die, give a short accept.
Any says, with Diniing, Anitia, in my view,
the whole foundation of the ediphis of the early boot
is teaching is throne out of the window.
And he's has not I realized that two pastages,
take a other for book on the own,
certainly do not reflect the full position
of the order
Yeah, I a grave is robert,
what robert sense, and somebody else, also what were
the other points that I've found difficult with the book.
And so I thought that cincy dist on the same topic as in these lections,
it is on titles seen that freeze meditations on emptiness and
dependent arrizing by nom problem. I just. I say few more things that I believer problematic.
So one is What I think is a kind of,
I mean, I need to first of all say that
whatever I'm saying now is from the viewpoint of early buddhism.
Holy. So, Peter hat 37,
there's always a sense of self to sundigry, whenever,
there is any experience of anything.
And to one and 15, the experience,
the perception of a phänomenon depense on cleaning,
for a thing to a peer as that thing for consciousness
to be conscilidited into an experience.
It needs a certain a mount
of cleaning
Your from an early buddhist few point,
this is this that's no our because in allerhand has experience.
But this no cleaning. So I think this is a,
I think it's a fundamental messon a standing of the implication of the Finand Goal.
And another hically fundamental messon the standing, comes about,
what is nibano? So our page 3199,
his peaks about a conception of Nirvana,
to go of the part as some kind of cersation of
operiences and manifestation
Ist no longer, ultimately meaningful. Page 401,
and unrememeting exploration of flubrikation and dependental rising,
hopensurfficion of the world is Neobana.
A world of multical appearances, groundless and thoughally empty et
mystically appearing. Yeah, and Page 400,
do. Even if they have been some sense of this enchantment,
brought about through practice, we can see
now that going deeper into experiencial understanding of emptiness profoundly and
wunder 40 reenchance, this whole world of phänomenal appearances.
And then you points how that word soundscore that in soundscore,
this is a sankitar condition in Pali.
Which we have been translating as farbriketted and concocted,
can also mean consecrated, sankified, hallo.
For this is the fels sense,
we have with the certain debt of insight in the farbrikation
Quasi den Only Negative Connotations, now the intimations,
in the sense of the firbagated of holidness,
secretness purity and mystery. Ja,
und das ist so todly different from the earny breathes few point,
there as nothing about moving from dispecsion and disenchantment to becoming a reenchanted and there's also
no mystification of the world, as the secret or the holy.
So I think this is much as you not for Dortmund,
dispend more time, I just want to say that this book,
how ever,
his full of deep insights
about meditation practice
As a lots of wonderful points in the book. So what I'm saying,
as simply that there is a trend in later to dition,
to reinterpret certain concept and this trend is obviously in this
book and simply for anybody who is operating with in the
frame of early buddhist done and aiming at the type of liberation that is invision early body start,
such a book cannot surface a guide.
On can simply pick out individual insights,
but one cannot in use it,
as a guy for wants practice,
because the disclarly based on premises and aims at the final
type of realization that is substantially different from early gunden
Tenevoice something a common from Kim Allen.
All mind-objects have the assence of diliverance. Anything can't sure
follibration by seeing through it with Wiston. Of course,
you ban is ourselveilable, no matter what is happening.
And she adds, it is the wide kind of 9,
that freest the minding or situations, regardler software,
object is present.
This was what I wanted to share in terms
of commons and now we are ready to go
into someone number
Hedang, Santane, ich danke, wann ich dann... Ja,
die danken, ich habe ein bisschen Karre, Samatom.
Sam, uper, deeper, ding ist, sagen wir mal,
dann haken Kayo, viranagoni, oder nicht Barlang.
This is spaceful, this is excellent. Nämlich,
das stilling of all preparations, there relinquishment of all assets.
The distruction of craving deep touchment, cissation, extinction.
With the permission of the most penible great precepting in the
assembly of the venible meditative monks.
This is the 10th serman in the series of sermons
on nibana
With the help of a pable, based on the problem of the Gym,
in the oma gatiatical. We made an attempt,
to what's the end of our last Sermon, to clay,
if it to some extent, how the personal diview,
or rises due to the ignorance of the fact,
that name in form is something reflected on consciousness.
We mentioned in brief, how as certain would be viseman,
doctor Trouble to M diapon, and even dig out the money.
Under the impration that the east actually a German it,
simply because their appeau to be a Gym in the Pond
Similondy, by taking to me real name in for,
which is only an image, reflected on consciousness,
leading to a personal interview, suppen caredity.
Ball the dourneralysm and nicholism, build on the two views
of existence and non-existence, tended towards to extrems.
Under the influence of self-love,
eternalism to cup the view that there's a self,
and looked forward to it's a purpotation, prompted by self-hate,
annihilationism or neilism,
cherrish different hope,
that the release from the self-wolocer
at the
Gold these extrem views, confused the issue by not understanding
to reflected image as as such.
Now, how did the middle part, which the Buddha
introduced to the world, of why this two extrems?
In this by offering a knowledge and vision of things as
they are, yet talk broad and in yanna doesn't.
In place of those two views of existence and non-existence.
In other worlds, he made known to the world,
the trune knowledge and vision,
that name in form is merlian image,
we flected
on consciousness
There's a special significance in the world, yet have behout on.
In contradistinction to the tools, horror and we mother.
The word booter, has some pick huliarity office on.
In all it to clarify, in the meaning of the Terminator behooter,
we can draw on a discourse in the it to would to go.
A few lines of which we'red all requarted at the end
of the previous summon. When presented infull,
that discourse, we make it clear,
when the build there introduce to word put on in preference
to the existing usage in terms of mother and we mother
This is how that discourse proceens. And we he im hicken KW
in didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't didn't dedn't dedn't didn't didn't dedn't deek.
Ich hatte einen Kommando oder passende. Katanje Becker,
wie Oli und die Ecke. Bavarama, hickenkabi-idee,
wenn man uns sagt, Mavaradam, Havasamo, wie da.
Tee, Sang Barbaniro, that, that, that,
it, that, it, that, it, that, it.
Evanko, PKW, Oli und die Ecke
Katanjem hicker wie Adidhavan, die egel. Marveni, kooperne, eklatten, diamana, Harajemana, an die Guccimana, Bipavan, Avinan, an die. Ja,
tot, tot, tot, tot, tot,
tot,
Evankom, HKW, Chuck, Kommandovabass, sind die.
Ob sie es bei Tour Views morgens, I'm got in man,
some of home like behind well, others over rich.
Only they do see, that have eyes to see.
How morgens to some lang behind?
Gods and men men mons, the line in existence,
their at attached to existence, they rejoys and existence.
When humm mys being preached to them for this issation of existence,
there are minds to not which art to also it.
Do not get please in it?
Do not get a stead it in it
Do not mist confident between. It is not,
that some legend behind. Hormons, to some overwich.
We in troubled shame than discussed of existence as such.
Some the light in non existence. Since the self,
at the breaking up of his boldy hafted that,
will be unihelated and destroyed. This is peace,
this is excellent, this is how changly.
This morgens to some overwich. And hormons to those
with I see, you're in the monk,
see is the become miss become
Having seeing to become as become, he's dreaming the pap,
to what's dejection, dispection, insusation, we don't in becoming.
That's it is morgens that those with I see.
Kommende Translation by Ireland, because hell by to kinds of use.
Some dear was an man holding back, and some overreach.
Only those with vision see. And how because to
some whole back, never sident man enjoying being,
they light in being, as settisfied with being.
And how my start to them for the sociation of being,
minds to not entering doing in the quire confidencing,
or set lapony, or become result nothing.
This mingos do some hold make. How because to some
overreach? Now, some a trouble,
the shamed and discusted, but this very sin being.
And there we joys in the idea of non being ascerting,
in as mindches this self-could sares,
when the body persis that there, is an hilated and distroy.
And does not existed have in there.
This is pieceful, this is excellent and this is reality.
Was because du some overreach
Oh, because to those with vision see, here in the micricities,
what has come to be as helling come to be.
Having seen it those he practices,
the calls for turning away, for dispession,
for this ecision of what is come to me.
That's micros to those with vision see and of comment.
This basics, clearly bring saw in the extreme nature,
those two views, of existence and none existence.
The two versus orgurring at the end of the sutton,
present that just of the discuss even
more clearing
Jedem Hut tanken rote Ton, dies war Brot, das solche Artikel gemannt.
Jattapo, delimuccinti, poratanha, paritancaya. Sany, Brot,
departimio, so vedet ton home, be waber we.
Brot, das war die Bewahrbigung, nagentschetti, Bunde berahmen.
Norse we have seen the become as become,
as well as the going the yone of whatever has become
a released in begoing to things as the are,
by the exorction of craving for becoming
That monco has fully comprehended the become. Who is the
void of craving for continued becoming? But that this continuation
of what has become been not comeback again to a state
of becoming. Comment, transation my Ironland. Hang seeing
what has come to be as having come to be.
Passing beyond, what has come to be. There released in
a callings with truth my exosting the craving for me.
When them hick was fully understone that be chess come to
be as such. Free from creving to be this alreadment.
By the extinction of that is come to be
Wie kam es nur Humor, do renewal of being end
of combat? No, it is extremely clear,
even from the quartation as it stands,
that the buddha has interpost, this would me who down,
between the in that gottomused terms and hover and in the vivara.
In the contemporary society, in this two terms,
where used to the note in the existence and the distruction of a soul.
This usuals, this usage is clearly revealed by some discourses.
You miss those who held on to similar views,
express them insight sterms as as,
by vissami and not myself
This expressions, meaning over be and I will not be
carry with them and implication of a person on a self.
The Thermen Bruta on the other hand is nun Aminemel does to usage.
In his the passive sense of something at has become.
Light that reflection, mentioned earlier, it convased de-idea,
of being produced by courses and conditions.
Going by the anology of the reflected impage,
mentioned the barth, the eternalist, because of his nasis-sistic self-love.
Gensit touched to is one self-image and the langs behind
When the Buddha, Preach is the Damma,
for this suissation of existence, he swings from fear,
that it would lead to the distruction of yourself.
It is like the nassist systic attent to embrace on so
on image in Water, out of self-low.
The annihilation is view, liest du ein Attitude of Escape besin,
like that of one, who is of sessed by son shadow.
One can it out strip on song shadow. Edizonly alwayne attent.
So also is the front hope of the near list,
that by simply engating surf,
one can we free
from we
bieted burn
It turns all to be mehr wish full thinking.
Because simply by a virtue of the view,
I show not be after death.
One can up, win deliverents. So longer such definements
like ignorance and craving are there. This with a two extremes,
to was which those dogmatic views, of eternalism and annihilations intended.
By introducing the turn coater, the would are made it now,
that the 5 proops other product of courses and conditions.
That DR conditionally arism
In die Edie Wut der Kaffee-Estance one comes a cross the falling significant lines.
Yeah, don't brought that's a muck one thank thank that that amandor.
The reference year is to the five groups of crossing,
there are born become a rison that is condition rison.
Made up, prepared and unstammel. These words are
suggestive of some artificiality. The word add do on,
brings how the in permanents that in the substantiality.
There is no eternal essence,
like satt
or being
It is many a self-Image, a reflection. So it
seems that the word puta has connotations of being a product
of courses and conditions. Therefore in spide of the scare,
it has a rows in the soul of the ourists.
Nibana is not something that dystroys a trually existing entity.
Donny Barnes is gold vavanny root hard, cersation of existence
. A quiting to the art look of the bunda,
the worldings have many at craving for existence and how ton how,
I not a real existence.
Edizony a conceed of existence, the conceed harm,
as mimano
In reality, it down mounce to a craving.
And this is the significance of the 10,
10 harbon of PADK, craving which makes for remember coming.
Because of that craving, which is always been forward.
Worldlings keep a running bound in Sangsala.
By don't know, I'm analysis, a concrete situation,
always we views as state of a become a bruder.
As something produced by causes and conditions.
I don't you drangs a wagon, when a carad is
projected to what's it from the wagon.
The journey of beings in Sangsara,
is something like that
So what we have hear is not the distruction of some
existing essence of being or so.
From the point of view of then hammer, this issation of existence
or mornier on that. A minds to stopping of the
process of becoming. By the weem moval of the course
is leading to it, nämlich Ingorance and Craving.
It is ineffect the sensation of suffering itself.
Those who had on to the unihilation is view.
Entertained to hope, that there view itself in title that
them to that
cherriste coal
But it was in vain,
because the engarance craving and grusting within them creator for them,
the five groups of grusping, or this mass of software,
again in again, this by the view.
Open point to do to come in their don't know.
So what we have years and the philosophy of things,
as they are, which follows a certain law of corrsality.
The buddendays immittel paar is based on this knowledge invision,
of things as the are,
a voiding both extremes of certain diligence
and self-motification
Let us now, kunst wieder the question of existence involved in
this context. The chanson mother and in we power,
I generally, associated with the ID of the worlds existence.
Something to deck atti on is as the basic element integrammatical structure.
Very often those up holders up dogmatical views, broad ups,
such propositions as everything exists, someone atti and nothing assist.
Some bang natti before the munda
Expecting himmed to give a categorical answer.
But the multnder pointed out it ass me or air is
more basic in the usage of is and is not.
The most elementary concept is ass me or air.
Hands to turn ass mimana, the conceed em.
In the crammatical structure and the pride of place should be
given to ass me or air.
We sometimes stand to we got atti or is as the primary turn.
But as me deserves pride of place in sofa,
as it is the basic element in the grammatical structure.
At is like the central peng from which all metterings and
so theings of the
world start
Since the world mahnen, as me mana, also means measuring.
Given ass me or and everything health comes to be.
Then as take an illustration, if for instance,
we say, there is something. Someone will post the
question, where is it? It should be idea here,
on there or young the dallas, over there.
It can be in one of those three places. Now,
if it is here, how does that place counting become,
become a here, that is where eier.
Der is where he is, and young there is
where you are
So we are fear in the framework of the grammar.
Hier is the basic lining up for the formation of the grammatical structure.
It's most elementary pattern. So then I am, you are
, and he is. In this way we see,
that one can speak of the existence of something evelative to
a view point, prepresented by M or IM.
That is why the bunda, rejected as extremes,
the two views of absolut existence and absolut non-existence.
Best one is aktive and is not nuckty
Onlywander is an eye, can something exist value to that eye. And that's something,
if it is there, in this where I am not present,
or it in distance from me,
if it is younger, no over there,
it is before you, why in front of me,
and if it is here, it is messibly.
From this we can see, net this conceed earn,
his as it ware,
the origin of the hoew world,
the origin of the world of Grammar
On a previous occasion to wild discussing the significance of the
two tens it beharren and anyata beharren.
We had to make a similar statement. The doors our
it tension to a very important fact in this concern.
Name the defect that the concit an,
does up a rise without courses and conditions.
It is not something uncalls than unconditions. If it is
uncourse than uncondition, it can name by be may to sees.
The northing M rises do to certain courses and conditions.
There's a world suggestive of its coursel orient,
name you padaya
North for Instance, we used to to Panjupa down up and Canda.
When we speak of the five crubs of crusting,
the word uparadana, upa, plus A,
plus A, is often randod by drasping.
The Prethic's Opa is a posting bleib that ten nacity of the hold.
One can there for ask, where that is not sufficion
to relaxed to hold on the five crubs.
Strictly speaking the Prethic's Opa in Upandana,
commerce to sense of proximity or
Song times the two world upedi and upadia,
dia found in jucks deposition. Opedia, upadia,
upa plus i, to go means coming need or approaching.
And our party at it has to sense up, holding
on two. Hereding come on close. In other worlds,
we have here not only a case of holding,
but of holding on dom.
So the totalky of existence from the view point from the
point of you of damma is dependent on a holding on
or grasping on.
In this not something on course
and uncondition
Here we may remind ourselves of the similary of the winding
of a lot of court,
which we brought up in a previous summen.
We cannot help, going back and to the same similary again in again.
If we are to deep now understanding of the downer.
In that illustration, we is brought cultural persons,
winding up server strange, to make a lop or cold.
But dolve are winding in the same direction from I
there end. Sunshine attended winding or ever long in
this continued
Does not resared in in actual winding. For the simple reason
that the winding from one end is continuably unwind it for the other end.
But would happens of a type person catch is catch is
hold of through up in the middle.
You do to that hold on the middle something like a
role a peace to get wind it up.
Now existence to is something similar. It is,
because of the whole in the middle, that the role gets wound up.
From the point of view of an outsider,
the one in the middle is wholeing on do or loop.
But the true this that decemblines of Europe is there,
due to that holding on itself
This dann is the nor not this world.
Whatever this of a nature to rise.
All that is of a nature to seas. Young king,
you someone they at home one than you don't know.
It is in the nature of things,
that every wining ensup, being and unwinding.
But because of that hold in the middle, the winings get up cumulated.
Just because of his hold in the middle,
his hand his understress in strain.
Similarly, the stress in strain that his existence,
is also new to gosping or a holding on to.
Opa down that in Bunny
In fact to be have not given this illustration,
mearly for the sake of a simony.
Wir können diese Weasons, for expality, even from the discourses.
This world operanaire is particularly notwording. Has we have ormly shown.
O'Padana does not simply minus gaspin, or graspin, budgetly.
But holding one does something, having come close to it.
This holding on creates to certain relationship,
which mean be technically tount are relativity.
The two stand relative three
For instance, that wow, exists velative to the
grass being of the person, holds onto it.
No oper, nahe ist die absolute Form of Upagana.
And hest the Implication of something reality.
There is a diskurs in the Candas on you to,
which clearly, we were this fact.
It is a someone preached by benewhere punktnahmand Daniel Butter,
to vellara einander. This is the velevant private.
Opa Daya, Usua and that Asmedio, die noanobadayan.
Kingjo Opalaya als Medio, die noanobadaya.
Looping upadaya als Medio,
die noanobadaya
Nee, der Namupadai, als Medio, die Neuangupadai.
Sunny mupadai, as medio, dino, Anupadai. Some cardio padai,
as medio, dino, Anupadai, as medio, dino, Anupadai.
Opadaia, vous juan, and nas midio, dino, Anupadai. Say,
it happia, vous suan and a itten diva,
borisuva, na hado juva, ma na cardiatico,
and nas siver partiesudden the pariotate, aktiva oder kapatte,
sakan, muka nimmit,
and partio ecomana.
Opadai, a pas say,
no, Anupadai
Ever me ever coa, wo es woanders. Opadayas medio, die nuanopadaya.
Let us not trying to get it a meaning of this important passage,
which you climify through the world we have allly attempt to do explain through similaries.
It is with dependence when to einander, that the nution
em occurse. Not without deependence. With dependence on a what destination emuccure and not without dependence,
with dependence on form does the nudget emuccure,
not with our dependence,
with dependence on feeling does the nuction emuccure,
not with our dependence,
with dependence on perception does the nuction emuccure,
not without dependence
With dependence of reparations dust in notion emoker, not without dependence.
With dependence on consciousness, dust in notion emoker,
in not redult dependence. Just as, friend down under,
a woman norman, use fullend front of a doorment.
In looking at here or his facial image, in a mirror,
on a bowl filled with pure clear, clean water.
Would be seeing it with dependence, and not without dependence.
Even so friend and and ander, it is with dependence,
that denotion emokers, not without dependence.
Coming, transvation my becobolie
It is by cleaning einander, net the notion I am occurse, not without clean.
And by clean do what, there's I am occurse, not without clean.
It is by clean to form that I am occurse,
not without clean. It is by cleaning to feeling to perception,
to voliching informations, to consciousness that I amoccurse, not without cleaning.
Supports friend our ander, young woman, or man,
useful in front of honorments,
would examine on one facial emenge in the meror,
men in Born, tape it pure, clear,
clean what dom.
She would look at it with cleaning,
not without cleaning
So, to it is back clean to form that emocrats,
not but not clean. And he is my translation of
the same up the algum open it. Arlanda,
he is by clean to states that one concieves I am this,
not made out clean into states. Ananda by clean to what states,
does one concieve I am this, not with I clean to them,
clean to what ly form, walking to it ass,
I am this, not with I clean to it.
Clean to feeling, perception, formations,
conciousness, one chillings to it as,
I am this,
not with I clean to it
Just as a person, who holds in his hand,
a clear mirror, or clean water,
in a boom, as a mirror.
In clings to it to sees one face,
who sees, because a cling to the mirror,
not with a cling to it.
End of comment. In fact, it is vara
difficult to rando the world opinion.
It mains independence on something, and as a valiative sense.
Reinforced with the imfertig in double negative.
The association seems to imply, that denotion em is something
lependeln,
and not independent
That it rises, due to course is and conditions.
In the explanation that follows, this dictim is substantiated
by bringing in the five groups or aggress.
Relative to which one posites and M. This subscribing erispation,
surf the bring on the requiet nowins of the Dschungelby and Diane,
which is more often connected with the rother cross ideo of grassing.
The young women or the young man,
is looking at here or his face in a murror.
They can see there on face or the scieneffect,
more can imited
Only with the help of a mirror. That is as
an image effectivonite. They are dependent on a mirror or
similar object for seeing the onface, not inependent.
Wollte wenn man eine pundnermann tany butter sims to stress,
is that the notion em, is the resard of crusping or holding on,
to form feeling perception, preparations and consciouses.
It is the more looks into a mirror, that one
suddenly becomes self-conscious. Where the one has a liking,
or this like, for what one see is,
one guess a the notion this
is me
So it is by coming closed to a mirror,
which reflects once facial image that the notion am occursed depenning on it.
The world of bandaya, there for a ploximates
to the idea of coming close and holding on too.
That notion occurs and the utural relationship arrising from it holding on.
Even if one already has no set notion.
In the moment one looks in do a mirror,
one is sundary reminder of it, as hiftics thing,
ah, here are year.
This is the just of what men upon no montanibutter
is trying to but a cross through this in discurs
This shows that the conceed M arrises due to the five grassbing groups.
The absolutely operadaya, don't actually to operadaya has a deeper significance.
It is a word suggestive of a relationship.
It does not mehrly mean a holding on. But all so
or certain necessarily relationship enrising out of that holding on.
Just as a looking in to a mirrow or a bold of water,
give rise, to a facial image as a reflection.
Here to the relationship calls forth, the deluded reflection,
here are are
Even the notion here I am, their follows their corrovery,
corrolovery, things that I'm mine. So there's supposed to
be an I, contradistinction to things that I'm mine.
It is the difficulty to deemarkate in the area of applicability,
but we in these two concepts,
at as given vice to in a solier reproblems.
What I and what is mine? The 20 mores of
Personal to you suppenguy it it to portrait,
I one is at once withs end to service problem.
There does not see, I have a 20 mores of
personal deview are made up
For instance as we guards form, it is for full this follows,
loopern attitude sammeln passa, die Europawanderung war, Attentanen,
Attente, Eva, Europa, Europas minma, Attanen.
Here guards forn a self, or self as possition form,
or form as insel, or self as empform.
It is the same with the other four groups,
in this way, the personal deview is olding a that 24.
All this comes about due to the ignorance
that name in from is only reflection,
like that facial image
In Grasping this self-Image of name from one Grass,
the Five Groups. A touchement to name in form.
A mounts to a holding one in to these Five Groups.
To many, the relationship between name in for integrasping groups,
appears as a big puzzle.
Wherever one looks, one see this self-Image of name in form.
But when one Graspset, we're come to support in the Grass,
because a grouple form feeling perception preparations and of consciouses.
The magical illusion created by consciouses is
so complete
That discapable of playing a doal roll as in double acting.
Because it reflexed like a miral consciousness it selfies grasped.
Just as one grasps, the miral. No, don'tly the reflection
of the mirror, but the mirror it selfies grasped.
The grasping group of consciousness represents, such a pretticument.
One can form an indyear, about the relation,
with we name in forman consciousness,
by going deeper,
into the implications of this discourse
In the Discussion of the Intribulation with we name in Form.
The Bulldoming's use of to highly significant terms.
Nämlich Adi Veitschenes and Passa and Paddigas and Passa.
How contact devices dependent on nehmen Form is explained by the
Bulldom in the Mahaninda and so that of the Degenicaya.
It is advest to ventual on in the Form of the Katheshism.
Passa our contact is is hot of hybrid. Caring that
the implications of both addie vigines and Passa and Partyguys and Passa.
That is to say it part text of the cate
of name name
As suggested by Andy Varchinson passen, as well as that of form Europa, indiggated by Particas and Buzzern.
This will me clear from the relevance section up because he's in the mahan in the Anasulta. Namaropapaccia,
pass so it, it companiet in mutter, tantana,
in mina bet, in parialiene, venetem bang,
yet ta, namaropapaccia, Yeah, hier aneinander, Kari hi,
Prieling gi, yeah, nimm mit denen die Unde See,
nahm Agaya Sapania ti hunting, de sua kari sum,
de sulingesum, de suanimitenthesen, diese Unde ist Jesu Asadi,
Abinoco, Europa, Kari, die Weitschnemper,
Passopania at Adi, no heter vante.
Yeah, and an Akari hi, yeheling, geh,
hi, hi, nimm mit de, yeh und de see,
Europagaya Sapania ti hoti, de sua gari is um,
de su linggesum, de suanimitenthesum, deshunde seesu, also die,
Arbino-Korn-Namen, Kai, die Patikas und die Passupania getötet haben.
Das ist eine gute Idee. Je heran an der Kadehi,
Jeheling, Jehi, Jehi, Middende, Jehuddende,
See, Namakayas, Rube, Kayas, Japanias und Jehuddende,
Desuakaris und Desudingesum, dies animierten Thesen, diese Hunde,
ich sehe so, also die Abin und Kor,
eine Virginas und Passau war Patinkas und Passau war Anja Yetadi,
no,
Edan Bande
Yeah, I'm not a carry, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah,
yeah,
Von name in formers conditioning contact comes to we.
Lass sie das bin sandabar. And that are non
the should be understood in this männer to,
as to har from name in formers condition contact dorises.
If wahr non anda odo's most catheristic science and exponents,
by which the name group namens Kaya, is disignated where ups and.
What do be minifest any verbal impression,
and idea virgins and passs, in the fong group,
looper Kaya,
there would not now
Ifananda others mores cactoristic science and exponence. By which the form cooper is decinited,
where ups and, would to be minefest any presistence
impression pottigers and passion in the nebengruppe? There would not lord.
Henny fahren an the others modes, cactoristics, science and exponence.
By which there's a the signation of both name Gruppe in Formgruppe,
were ups and. What do be manifest,
I there any burble impression or any resistance enpression?
There would not lord
Ennifan an der Olos Mols Capteristics Science and Experience.
But which there comes to be a designation of namen from where upsunt.
What do be mine of fest any contact?
There would not knowled. Were for an an this it surface
the course. This is the Origin. This is the
condition of a contact. That is to say to namen
for. Translation by lique body. It was said,
with name in forem as condition this contact.
How then is so on on the should be online study in this way?
If those qualities, trades science and indicators, slowitch,
there's a description of the mental in Bonny, we will upsand.
What they signation contact medizinal in the material body,
certainly not minors
If those qualities, straight science and indicators,
through which there's a discription of the material, bodywhere, all upsand.
Would impension contact be these serened in the mental body,
certainly not manus, yeah. If those quality is straights,
science and indicators, Trovic, in the as a description
of the mental body and the material body, where all upsand.
Would under they signation contact or impension contact and be discience
, certainly not manus. If those qualities, straights,
science and indicators, provide, there's a discription of
the name in phone
Where all upsine, would conting medizin, certainly not minutes here.
Were for einander, miss is the calls, source,
orientieren and condition per contact, nehme ihn vor.
End of comment. Which we have of for worlds
of a light sense namey arcada, mode, linger,
guy touristic nimitedesign, in undeser exponent.
The Buddha, catech getically, bring is on it,
for conclusions by this disquisition. They are one,
by whatever modes, categoristics, science and exponents,
then name group, enamoka, is disignated.
In the upsince, not the signation of verbly imcression,
addierate and some passer, in der Form Group Grouper Guy
is possible
Two, bly whatever molds, can toistics science and exponents,
the Formcook is designierted. In the upsense,
no designation of resistance empressions, particles and passing.
In the Nangroup, Namakay, is possible.
Why what ever molds, can toistics science and exponent,
sport namebook and from good on, designierted.
In the erbsense, not lessignation of the global impression or resistance impressions is possible.
By whatever molds, get doistics, science and exponents.
Namen Form is designierted. In the absence,
no designation of content desposure
Or this may value peer, like a riddle,
but then it just consider would name from mains to begin men.
The definitional gave to nama, in our way fast some,
happened to be different from the well known,
definition knowleys given in terms of abending.
We interbeted nama in the sense of a naming.
Non disturm any vaginal, also conversation made.
Ade merchana, synonym, Neuruti, Norman Glatje,
empaniaty designation, apart and pas love linguistic usage.
In the Neuruti, debattars of the Canon assumierte
Und kam so quasi flitterns. Mir ruht die Partei,
Anevagina Partei und Puppania de Partei. Partei ist of
nomen clyture, Partways of Synonyms, Partways of Designation.
This three turns, a closer align in meaning.
In that deping out in shop relief, three aspects of linguistic usage.
No rupti, emphesizes the explanatory or expository function of linguage.
And evagina, it's symbolic and met afocal character.
While pania tipping sort it's
dependence on convention
Wall be have here is any vitching is ambassel.
It's affinity to name is obvious.
And this is precise in the meaning we attributed tonama.
Therefore, what we have in this concept of namakaya,
or ningu liturally, name Bolly. Is is said,
of first principles, any whistic usage, but thening to definition.
The firm could europacarian, liturally from Body,
on the other hand, as something to do with resistance,
as suggested by the turn particles symbassel.
Particle means striking yensed. Form europa as as a striking
quality.
Why name
Oh Name, es sind Descriptive Quality. Passt, sauer,
contact is a hybrid of wehs too. This is what
gives it deep in a mention to the above this quisition.
The point and the buddha, siegst to by home,
is defected a concept of contact, necessually pressuposes, bulls nehmen fon.
In other words, name in from are mutually intribulated as only stated about.
There would not be burbel impression in the form group,
have the burn a mords, can to resteams,
it's about proper to name. Like wise,
they good be no resistance impressions in the name group,
if they were no mores, can to resticks,
etc.,
poper to form
Ein First zeigt, this to may appear as totly a postwich other.
But podys enply is a case of mutual intrulation.
The expression peculious to the namebrop is an necessary condition for the Formgroup.
Why the ressistance peculious to the Formgroup is an necessary condition for the namegroup?
Comment? Yeah, I vointed do added that Formulation here,
you spider Value my should not be decon to literally and
lead to a miss on the standing award.
I believe his trying to point out.
This is again
one of those
Okay, es ist so, in speaking doing a talk
one is not always able to have that tour represition,
that one would have in a bitton in right senatical room book.
The point is that der Kenbi name gedown form.
But the Kenner before without name. So the point is
that in particular inview of the Tendency in der Therapie der
Exithetical Tradition to endos in modern maitation circle sometimes to think
to conceptualize the cardivation of insight in terms of a direct experience of form,
as in ultimate reality,
as destinct from the use of concepts which are allocated to the ram of conquality,
this does not square with a view point of the sutters.
And as to venomen you know, makes it very clear,
and they is basically no Experience of Form without name,
there has to be at least that minimal conceptual input from the names side,
for processing the experience of
Form such that it can be experience. The point that
I wanted to make at this juncer is how ever,
there can be experience of name without Form.
And that is there immer diroal experiences. So der Formgrob
is not always and nessis recondition for the name group.
In fact, it is the precise of the up sense of
partiger of resistance that is Charakteristik of the attainment of the emmaterials fairs.
We usually get the standard description for a taining the first of these immaterials fairs,
which is the one of bound a space and it speak
soft partigas sanianing at dangama.
So as living behind perception of resistance,
that one I tains that immaterials feel of bound as space
and based on that then the other source.
So it is clear that Paddigger Contribution Effamine Called Side made by Form to nehmen,
ist nur ein indispensible Requirement von dem er sucht.
Der Cambe name without Form. Indoor Specific Instances of the
immaterial experiences by a meditate or the call insponding Celestial Realms.
But this was just to for the seak of Clarity and
of comment. Since you we have something lieb,
let us go on illustration for the sake of Clarity
As we have already stated a verbly impression,
in we got to the front group is there,
because of the constituence of the name group.
Now the form group consistence of the forgreed primaries at what a fire and here.
Heven and to distinguish between them by the quality is of
hardness in softwares, horteness in Coolness etc. Feeling,
perception intention, condit an attention, who
chade constituence of the namebook have to play to about.
This it is with the help of those members on the
name signed that the four basic elements assourcier to would from
receive in regulation
Matterfore is a figure of speech. Kommen in all nettle
Literary Language, as well as in technical Terminology.
Hier, the inanimate is animated by personification.
What is proper to the animate world is super imposed
on the inanimate? Not a world adivacena is you are
little really a super imposition.
And it is a down with obvious matterforegal associations.
Whereas in the literary feel did has on all need value,
as ifing reality of expression, in technical usage,
it surfs the purpose of facility of expression,
by getting the pools to speak for themselves
Vor Instants, Carpenter might speak up to planks, touching each other.
Is he have to cannot slick touch in fear?
The concept of touch even when it is attributed to
in animate objects, is the outcome of fotention.
In this case the attention of the Carpenter. Here again,
we are remindered of the world of attention in the origination
of things. As stated in the King,
more lookers of this are mini, this customer.
In a cordin's better licton mind is the foreign of voltings.
All things, are wouldn't in interest. The originate
with a tension in the rise out of contact.
Chanda mole car voice as are being a mormanasic car,
as a mbara paper pas,
as a
mbara young
Where ever the carpenters interest went,
his attention discovered and pick top this thing.
And here that thing is the fact of two planks touching it uner.
Interest detention and contact together. Bring out some deep amblications
of the love dependarising. Notonium between Guard to enanimate objects
. But even in the case of this conscious body.
The question of contact is related to the fact of a tension.
If for instance, are are ask bot,
I'm touching now, one my say that I'm touching the
palmly finding my hand
This is because we usually associate,
the idea of touching with the hand that holes.
But supports are put a way the fan,
in ask again, what I'm touching know.
On my find it divibled do I saw.
It might not people possible for all other,
to guess, by mir external observation.
Since it is essentially subjective. It is dependent or my attention.
In the could needing be my vogue that I'm touching,
in the sense of contact.
Im which case I'm becoming concious of my body as a
part from the rope I'm wearing.
Conciousness,
follows in the wake of attention
Whatever my itension picks up of that I'm conscious.
Do I have in fund of me so many appountly visible objects.
Under my itensions focused. I conscious does not come
about. The basic function of this type of consciousness,
then is to disting mish between the I and the Object Scene.
Et is only after the eye has become conscious,
that other factors, necessary for sense perception, for in the place.
The do things, born of net basic discrimination,
to get up at the discriminating consciousness, it's how that is I consciousness.
Make up the concept
of contakt
Chakuncia, but it's ruped your open point you did Chakuncuiniana,
did non saw my die Passion.
Die Bände nun eilen froms i consciousness envises. The occurrence
of the three, the concurrence of the three is contect.
The same principle, holds good in the case of the two plans,
touching each other. All this goes to show,
that it is with the help of the factors in the name group,
that we can even it a feugely,
speaker for contect between inanimatings
That is now considered how resistance impression,
praktikers and passen, ganz im Ort.
It is send that the factors of the form group,
have a part to play in producing resistance impression on the namen group.
We sometime speak of nidea striking us, as evituell something material.
Or else and I a could be at the back of
our mind and the world on the tip of our dom.
The clearest manifestation of contact is that between material objects.
Mer collision is registive of resistance. As in plight by
the world party dom
This primary sense of striking against, or striking together,
is implicit, even in the cimilary given,
by the munda, in der Tat, wie behangos,
ob du auf der Moneymanicaia.
End in the passamulic, also that the Sanctuta nicaia,
concerning to sticks, being ruped together to kind of a fire.
Now as a gross manifestation, contact is by Mirrorling,
associated in with the Formgruppe.
It is essentially connect with the namegruppe,
as we have already explained that illustration
It is when both resistance impression and vable impression come together that content orvises.
Die Benendo nehmen von Namauropa by chair passion.
Another point that needs to be clear equite in this connection
ist die exakte Significance of the World Wopan.
This world has been variously interpretant. And explain them one of the
from Buddhist sects. How did the Buddhi fein Europa?
In ordinary usage it can mean in underforms evisible to the eye,
over their vost channy Facebook on of as motivier.
It's exact significants has become a sound chicked of controversing,
what precise in to be mean
by Rupern
The Buddha imself, has explained a world,
giving and the following and emology in the congineers would to
of the conginent in the Sony of Tannicaya.
While the fining the five groups in the he difference the Formgruppe as Formus.
Kingsher, Meghave Europa, Vadeta. Ruperté, die Korbik,
KW, Tasmaropan, die Wuppenjitti. Geh in Europa,
die denabirupädie, unhehnebirupädie, jiggo chayapyrupädie, bibabas,
how you birupädie, tanze, magasa,
vada,
da basiert rings ein paar Szenen birupädie
Gruppe D, die kommen, Hitkerve, Tasmaro, Bandimucity.
And one morgens to your call europa.
It is effected morgens, that is why discall a looper.
Effected by wait. Effected by cole, effected by heat,
effected by hunger, effected by thirst.
Effected by contact with Gadflys, Mosquitos, win,
sun and serpents. In this effected morgens that is why
discalled European. Moment, Translation by Micromoning
And why because New York all it form, it is different,
because therefore this call form, different by what.
Deformed by coldent in die Form bei Hitten,
in die Form bei Hangel, die von Bad Tirst,
die Form bei Contact bit Flys, Moskitos, Wind,
Sun and Serpence.
It is different because therefore this called form. In a
foot now piccopolie explains that is choice ofn deformed is on
purpose to try to give us essence of their world play
this playful attimology, between Europe, ein Ruperty,
in the Original
Ein Tear is my Translation of the Assanuctor, allgemein parallel.
Since it can be system can break. It is qualed
the bodyly form, I greeve it of clean.
This we first to being resistant. If it is by Herrn,
der wird es bei Stone, ihr werdet es bei Stick.
Ihr wird es bei Nive. Ihr wird es bei Goldeners,
ihr wird es bei One, ihr wird es bei Töst,
ihr werdet es bei Handeln.
Ephetis bei Moskitos, ein Gameflies, or any poisers in sechs.
Or by connect with Quint and Rain, and this is gold
business in connect. Because of such resistance,
it is call the body form,
I will get of clean
Again, this polny from argued of clean his in permanent,
look are in a for nature to change.
In the last sendence as no perlin in the party,
but I thought I, I'm including,
because it brings out the point of towards inside.
And of comment. This definition, seems to convery,
something very indeep. So much so that various buddhist sects,
came out with the various interpretations of this passage.
The buddy drindy parts from the way of approach taken up
by the materialistic systems of that in the world.
In defining in Europa with rook party,
being effected
It is not the inanimate fies and boxen,
the world that are sending be effekted by coden hit.
But this conscious body. Do this body is not consive
of has and bundle of attems to be animated by intribucing
into it life accounty, Give it in dreher.
What is men bei Europa is this same body?
This body with form, which for the meditator is a fact of experience.
I temps it interpretation from a sculastic point of view and
created a lot of complications.
But the definition sitztens is clear now.
It is directly addressed experience
The Purpose of the Intienne and Hangar,
Bridge by the Bunda, ist not to in Kölsch in Akademic
Vebling in Philosophical Satellities, with the mayar jumple of worlds.
The Purpose is attered this enginement, dispection and sociation.
Er kann daneben migning daher, viral varian yeroda heya.
Der vor dire Temology given here in Dams of Ruppedy,
to be effected, is in full our code,
with that purpose.
Ruppers, some called, because it is effect to pay cold,
he and this sting of gap vice moskidos etc.
Not because of any artomisminiert
If we are to examine further the meaning of this work,
ruppedy, we can call and on the full equalitation,
on the being years of the Barreihen, on the Superney
Barde. It's ruppened the rupäiser Gennabamada,
hillisman are facted in a regard to fonce.
Coming to transnation by Pico Body. People why heebles,
there flicted performs in of comment. And the Canonica
kommentary Julaning in Lesing, commenting on the world.
Bring sound dabei is nurance this connected with it
Guckt man die Pi-Layan, die Gatte, Jan,
Den, Bia, die da,
du mann hast sie da, Hund, die Ruppen,
die instabil adversity effekted,
to be a flicked to be a flicked to coming to point to point to be at this east and this please.
July, it is not the trease and box that are fected in this männer.
It is this animate body in that is subject to all this.
The pragmatic purpose of other detachment,
dispecial insociation is cleanup,
in Form des Kommentarit
What is no one of the form group, Europakandide,
is one vast one with no einer than up a tears.
This one is effected when in this touched by cold and
heat, and guide of flys and moslitus länder nicht.
This one gets eritated by then. We come a cross
yet and other canonical reference in supported of this in nunces,
in the falling to lines in die ultane,
so tor, the suptany bata.
Art oder nan, he carnetenda, sala vittental,
la ropa than. Forward sleep hould to be from
those who are flicted being this
with out
Coming, Translation bei Big Comboni. Forward Sleep can there
be for the effected, for those in years.
Pierce by the dar, denn doch gut.
These two lines is dress no need for heat fulness,
for beings pierced with the ever of greating.
Here to the web ruperty has the sensor being effected
or flicted. All this cost to share,
that the early buddhist concept of Europa hätte striking similarity emoted.
Simplicity emoted. As we have all restated that the very
outset, the teachings in the discourses as
simply enough
Boah, der ist so ein Gap in diesem moralischen President.
Für diese Öl, wenn der What is loose it and
limit at pool can see the bottom or verbunden.
But but the pressage of time,
there was a tendency the loose interest in this discurses.
Because of the general presidency for complexity.
Materialistic philosoph of a sympathical away carried away by the strand,
where then they were hindus or buddhists.
Modern the scientists toom, got court investrient.
The purse hooting materialistic overtons of the world groupon.
But that realizing that they're running affemiraise
Don't allysing metal. And so the ended up it in
atomism, you cast a heap of concepts.
Der andere heißt jetzt auf metter in us precipedated
Grasping und von Noise of Consens. Whether one gaspes,
a pole or a more, it is crossing on the same.
In the bundes atmoneys on the country point in a different deriction.
You point it out that in ordered to be free from
the burnhams and oppression of form.
When has to be free from the perception of form?
What is of volumans here, is the very perception
of form Europa Sania
From the point of view of them, no.
Any attem, that analysis of the manualityalistic concept of fonds.
Or any microscopic uneiths is of metter,
would lead tour purs hütten, of a miralisch.
This fact, the modern they ascientists is no in a possition to a prisciate.
Hier is founded the mind, which which he carries on
the analysis, is influencing is findings at every level.
In other words, he has been brunning out them joranisch.
Due to is ignorance, of thing would your interivilation between
nehmen from. On would not be in such applyed,
if one unnestance that to we're problematissue,
is not that a form,
but of the perception
of from
Innenölius Sermon, we happened to quote averse, which makes it expremitly.
Let us now hard back to that verse,
which your curse in the chatas, who are the same than Ikaya.
Yata namen Gerubansche, as yes one paron to the Partygang Europa,
Saniacia, et de Saniacia, to you to do.
We name it from as well as resistant, resistance,
and perception of form are completely cartoff.
It is there that that tangle, gets snaped. Coming,
than session by bigger body, where name in from ceasis,
stops without reminder, and also in penishment and perception of form,
it is here this danger is cut.
End of coming
Den Teil Sang-Cycle-Problem ist. Solve and the tangle gets snap.
Nehmen from resistenced and perception of from are completely cartoff.
In the normal manifestative consciousness mension in our earliers songs.
That in effect is the end of the tangle within and
the tangle without. All in discussion of the love,
did been do viralsing,
comust of made it clear that there is in intergulation with
we name in from and consciousness on the one hand.
And with we name from
themselves on the other
Beste eines der case of a tangle with the inner tangle
with out. Like the center spot of a worldpool,
they deep is point auf den Tire-Formeler of Particiosamobale,
is tracible to the individuation that uplains but be name in formal
one and between name in forman consciousness on the other.
Es war es der Significance of Perception of Formis Konzern,
The Trooper ist of this birdle in dever,
I quinning to the wunder,
is to very freedom from this perception of Form.
How does perception of Form come about
To that striking against or resistance. Perception of home rises for instance,
when get flys a moskitos land on this body.
Has we have all the mentioned,
even the destinctions of hard in soft et cetera.
But switch we we we cognize to for elements is an matt of touching.
We are only trying to masure and goals. The four
great primaries with this human frame. We can never ever
comply and fully the government of this four great primaries.
But we are trying to understand them to this human
frame in a way that this meaning from a tour life
All kinds of beings, have their one specific experience of touch,
in relation to the experience of the for elements.
So wollten wir 4 is in Dialea Question of Perception of Form.
The true burpose than, shopped the release of once mind from disperception of Form.
Et is only when the mind of free,
from assistance and the perception of Form,
as well is from nehmen Form,
that one can win to the eliverance,
from this problem of the tanker with the every tangle without that is thanks out.
You don't another fact in menges from the about viscussion
The two viewers of existence and now existence and power and wem hammer.
A certain and absolute existence, in den absolut nown existence.
Them drive pools, they insoliable problem to many flows
of us. Concerning the origin of the world,
they wonder with a set or being demold of assad or londing
or vice eversal. All these problems of rose order from
a missander standing about form or my tear of objects.
As we may well in fire from the volling two lines
of a verse in the color have vibale,
so too of the sutanity part.
Rupe, so this way, we bavang bavanche,
we nimmt J.M. Kurote,
Giando Logi
Heaving seen the existence and destruction of material phones.
Amen in this world comes to conclusion. Commen Translation my
vicle bully. Heaving seen the Bennashing and come interview ophones,
the personal forms and judgmenting world in the following.
What is the conclusion? They is in absolute existence in
den absolut in one existence. Wann come is to this conclusion,
drowing in den fans from the behavior of visible optics.
For instance, we could presume that this maschine before exists
in den absolut sense.
Ignoring the course is in conditions underlying at existence
The day this Machine is this toid.
We would say it was, but now it is not.
The wouldn't day is pointed out,
that's it absoluten views of existence and only existence are rösar.
Doch von incorrect understanding a lot form.
What actually is involved here is the perception of form.
Due to a miss conception about the perception of form.
The world in clients, to was the two extrem views,
ob absolute existence and absolut in non-easistance.
So the hold point of our discussion to gay
has been in the client fication of the mue to insolvation
between nameing
To short it nehmen for mitsar, is only in image,
or shadow, reflected on consciousness. Coming the serien pointester,
wenn man ihn aneinander hasst, just said,
is again on name in Forn,
particularly on the intergulation with we need too,
and the topic that also came up doing a first part of the samily for me,
but particularly strength is the hole idea of the clining to the
IM concent. Thank you very much for your tension